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[Max™]

I am trying to make material that gives improved SENSE_CREATURE_CLASS ability

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[CE_SENSE_CREATURE_CLASS:CLASS:BEAST_SENSE:164:4:0:1:START:0]
[CE_SENSE_CREATURE_CLASS:CLASS:HUMAN_SENSE:64:4:0:1:START:0]
[CE_SENSE_CREATURE_CLASS:CLASS:DWARF_SENSE:1:4:0:1:START:0]
[CE_SENSE_CREATURE_CLASS:CLASS:ELF_SENSE:140:4:0:1:START:0]
[CE_SENSE_CREATURE_CLASS:CLASS:GOBLIN_SENSE:151:4:0:1:START:0]
[CE_SENSE_CREATURE_CLASS:CLASS:ANIMAL_PERSON_SENSE:154:4:0:1:START:0]
[CE_SENSE_CREATURE_CLASS:CLASS:FLYING_THING_SENSE:239:4:0:1:START:0]
[CE_SENSE_CREATURE_CLASS:CLASS:CRAWLING_THING_SENSE:145:4:0:1:START:0]
[CE_SENSE_CREATURE_CLASS:CLASS:SWIMMING_THING_SENSE:160:4:0:1:START:0]
[CE_SENSE_CREATURE_CLASS:CLASS:GENERAL_POISON:15:4:0:1:START:0]
The game reads it from  top to bottom, and sense tiles does not override each other.
So human, that has classes HUMAN_SENSE, CRAWLING_THING_SENSE, SWIMMING_THING_SENSE and GENERAL_POISON will be sensed as 64 tile, rather than 145, 160, or 15.

I added classes to all main sapients and all megabeasts like this:

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[CREATURE_VARIATION:DWARF_MOD]
        [CV_NEW_TAG:NATURAL_SKILL:DISCIPLINE:3]
        [CV_NEW_TAG:CREATURE_CLASS:DWARF_SENSE]


[CREATURE_VARIATION:HUMAN_MOD]
        [CV_NEW_TAG:NATURAL_SKILL:DISCIPLINE:3]
        [CV_NEW_TAG:CREATURE_CLASS:HUMAN_SENSE]

[CREATURE_VARIATION:ELF_MOD]
        [CV_NEW_TAG:NATURAL_SKILL:DISCIPLINE:2]
        [CV_NEW_TAG:OUTSIDER_CONTROLLABLE]
        [CV_NEW_TAG:MAXAGE:500:1000]
        [CV_NEW_TAG:NATURAL_SKILL:DODGING:2]
        [CV_NEW_TAG:CREATURE_CLASS:ELF_SENSE]

[CREATURE_VARIATION:GOBLIN_MOD]
        [CV_NEW_TAG:NATURAL_SKILL:DISCIPLINE:3]
        [CV_NEW_TAG:OUTSIDER_CONTROLLABLE]
[CV_REMOVE_TAG:BONECARN]
        [CV_REMOVE_TAG:NO_DRINK]
        [CV_REMOVE_TAG:NO_EAT]
        [CV_NEW_TAG:MAXAGE:100:300]
        [CV_NEW_TAG:CREATURE_CLASS:GOBLIN_SENSE]
Then added  one line
[CV_NEW_TAG:CREATURE_CLASS:ANIMAL_PERSON_SENSE]
to animal man and leggless animalman CREATURE_VARIATION in the c_variation_default.txt
so all 50+ animal man will have their own sense class without modifying their raws.
And then added classes to STANDARD_FLYING_GAITS, STANDARD_CRAWLING_GAITS and STANDARD_SWIMMING_GAITS in the c_variation_default.txt like this:

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[CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_FLYING_GAITS]
[CV_NEW_TAG:CREATURE_CLASS:FLYING_THING_SENSE]
[CV_NEW_TAG:GAIT:FLY:Maximum Flight Speed:!ARG4:10:3:!ARG2:50:LAYERS_SLOW:STRENGTH:AGILITY:STEALTH_SLOWS:50]
[CV_NEW_TAG:GAIT:FLY:Faster Flight:!ARG3:5:3:!ARG2:10:LAYERS_SLOW:STRENGTH:AGILITY:STEALTH_SLOWS:20]
[CV_NEW_TAG:GAIT:FLY:Fast Flight:!ARG2:NO_BUILD_UP:5:LAYERS_SLOW:STRENGTH:AGILITY:STEALTH_SLOWS:10]
[CV_NEW_TAG:GAIT:FLY:Fly:!ARG1:NO_BUILD_UP:0]
[CV_NEW_TAG:GAIT:FLY:Slow Flight:!ARG5:NO_BUILD_UP:0]
[CV_NEW_TAG:GAIT:FLY:Hover:!ARG6:NO_BUILD_UP:0]
So flying, land and water-only creatures that are not sapients and not megabeasts will be sensed distinguishable.
All procedural creatures have non-standard gaits. Some of them have GENERAL_POISON class - so 15 tile for them.
Since i am not going to release my own mod, I'll leave it here. Just in case if someone finds it useful.

Is there a way to sense zombies and cursed creatures? (with custom secret interactions but without transforming creatures).

Neat idea.

Uh, I think you'd have to disable the procedural secrets and use your own with a creature_class:undead or whatnot.

[Vattic]

It did produce the same error, it just did not log it into the errorlog.

Fair enough. Cheers.

[thatkid]

Is it possible to tie a creature's interaction to a specific bodypart, without making that interaction require the same body part for a different creature with that interaction?

For example: You have a "fire breathing" interaction. Dragons can use this interaction only if an internal body part, the "fire gland," is in tact. Meanwhile, a modded creature, Fire Mephits, can breathe fire whenever they want regardless as they don't have that body part to begin with. 
 
...Is it even possible to tie interactions to specific bodyparts in the first place?

[thedonkified]

Is it possible to tie a creature's interaction to a specific bodypart, without making that interaction require the same body part for a different creature with that interaction?

For example: You have a "fire breathing" interaction. Dragons can use this interaction only if an internal body part, the "fire gland," is in tact. Meanwhile, a modded creature, Fire Mephits, can breathe fire whenever they want regardless as they don't have that body part to begin with. 
 
...Is it even possible to tie interactions to specific bodyparts in the first place?

Yeah, with the CDI:BP_REQUIRED token when giving a creature an interaction it can use in its raws.

[thatkid]

Is it possible to tie a creature's interaction to a specific bodypart, without making that interaction require the same body part for a different creature with that interaction?

For example: You have a "fire breathing" interaction. Dragons can use this interaction only if an internal body part, the "fire gland," is in tact. Meanwhile, a modded creature, Fire Mephits, can breathe fire whenever they want regardless as they don't have that body part to begin with. 
 
...Is it even possible to tie interactions to specific bodyparts in the first place?

Yeah, with the CDI:BP_REQUIRED token when giving a creature an interaction it can use in its raws.

Neato, thanks

[sv-esk]

Uh, I think you'd have to disable the procedural secrets and use your own with a creature_class:undead or whatnot.

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SECRET_CUSTOM_ANIMATE_3:Unrecognized Interaction Token: CREATURE_CLASS
SECRET_CUSTOM_ANIMATE_3:Unrecognized Interaction Token: CE_CREATURE_CLASS
SECRET_CUSTOM_ANIMATE_3:Unrecognized Interaction Token: CE_ADD_CLASS
Unsupported CE add tag: CREATURE_CLASS
Unsupported CE add tag: TEST_SENSE
Custom secrets is ok, but it seems, interactions cannot add class to creature([SYN_CLASS] is syndrome class, not creature class), or I am missing something. The only way to add creature class with interaction is convert it to another creature, which has desired class. And I am not happy with this.

[Putnam]

We know every single creature effect and interaction token, so just putting stuff in there won't help. You cannot add creature classes using syndrome effects except by body transformation, yeah.

[WillowLuman]

What's the difference between creature class and Syndrome class? Is it a new thing?

[Putnam]

Syndrome classes have been around since 0.31.01 IIRC and they've always been two completely separate things.

[thedonkified]

I'm confused with how temperature works, so can someone help explain it to me?

When setting the MAT_FIXED_TEMP of a material to some absurdly high number, anything it touches is not affected at all. Making the MAT_FIXED_TEMP none and setting the MELTING_POINT to a lower number like 9900, I was expecting something touched by the material through a liquid glob material emission interaction to not be affected at all. However, the complete opposite happened, and creatures touched by the material would melt wherever it was hit. Boiling, ignite, and heatdam point were set to temperatures higher than that of magma btw.

[WillowLuman]

I mean, don't syndrome class and creature class both affect interaction targeting? Can't an interaction just add a syndrome that adds a class with an identical string to the creature class?

[Bearskie]

Creature class gives the class to the creature, syndrome class gives class to syndromes. Interactions can only add syndrome classes fyi, creature classes are static.

[Bilious Slick]

I need help. A lot of help. (...though I'm sure that's a given, considering the purpose of this thread.)

I've been trying to create a mod that adds three castes of psychics to humans, but my skill at modding could be described as "dabbling" at best and a few steps below "not" at worst, so lots of things aren't working the way I want them to and I have no idea how to even begin to fix them. I've read the wiki, used guides, and looked at the raws for both vanilla DF and other mods I've found, but I still feel like I hardly understand anything and have been making very little progress on my own. I don't want to bother people by making a bunch of posts - heck, it took a lot of self-encouragement just to make this one - so if anyone who can provide aid is willing to do so, please PM me!

[Bearskie]

Will probably be better if you post your problem here. More minds to trash it out, besides being more convenient than PM. What do you want to know?

[WillowLuman]

Creature class gives the class to the creature, syndrome class gives class to syndromes. Interactions can only add syndrome classes fyi, creature classes are static.

I mean, for instance, vampirism. Checks to see if a creature isn't already a vampire or a werebeast. But the part of the interaction that checks for it would also detect [CREATURE_CLASS:WEREBEAST]. So, why not just add a Syndrome class to the affected individual with an identical string to the desired creature class?

Also, how to prevent a civ from bringing wagons without making them anal about wooden products?