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[Sheb]

Let me restate it: my understanding was that we coudn't influence our nation's diplomacy (signing cease-fire is above our pay grade) but that we could still communicate.

[Baffler]

I kinda like the steam engine, actually. We might not get railroads out of it this early, but we'll at least get basic industrial machinery, and the advantages that would bring us can't really be overstated.

[Funk]

Victoria pistol? any ome?

[Baffler]

I was thinking that as a revision.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Not stealing London class is so meh

Steam engine is interesting because we have experience with pressurized air... but I prefer not rush it yet

Victoria carabine is not something I like. It doesn't look reliable enough to survive riding, furthermore I don't like revising any weapon more than once.

I suggest

1) Design an air pistol for cavalry use.
2) Revise saddles, horseshoes and other equine equipment to give boost to our cavalry and maybe logistics

[Funk]

Should we try for an automatic pistol?

Spoiler: The X Cavalry Pistol (click to show/hide)

The X is a large pistol built for cavalry use.

It uses compressed air cartages like the Victoria II.
Unlike the Victoria II it is capable of full automatic fire.
Automatic fire is simple the air supply is held partly open, spinning the magazine wheel and so loading the next ball.
The magazine is adapted with a coil spring replacing gravity.

It is a large heavy pistol with a 9 1/5 inch barrel, and a 18 round magazine of .46 Caliber Shot

[Ukrainian Ranger]

full automatic fire isn't funny

[Ukrainian Ranger]

I think we need to work on logistics and getting second point of resource.

So here is my proposal

My proposal and vote
Crocodile river boat
Nimble river boat powered both by oars and single sail. Sturdy enough to withstand Brown Bess fire. Can carry either supplies or a fire-team armed with Victoria (I or II) or Brown Bess.

Intended uses are logistics, preventing enemies from crossing the rivers, aiding friendly forces in crossing the rivers, boarding enemy boats\ships that will dare to enter our rivers and delivering small groups behind enemy lines

We need second point of resources to allow ourself a proper artillery (or more 6lbses), island has enough rivers to make it useful, including several in the Bradford area that we need to defend.


PS. I want to get second point of ore and design 12 pounders next turn to assault the fort. We shouldn't assault it now. Designing 12 pounders now is pointless because their cost will be huge.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Minor bump of this thread as it has been over 12 hours without a post within it and there is currently no leading design.

[Sheb]

UR, I think that's a terrible idea, because it doesn't give us any new tech. It's not even much of an improvement over the fishing boats we have. I say let's go for a train. Armored train are going to be awesome.

[RAM]

Victoria pistol? any ome?

1) Design an air pistol for cavalry use.

Funk did switch to the automatic version, although that still technically qualifies as "an air pistol for cavalry use" even if it isn't funny...
I would add that the loading wheel should be spring-loaded with very few, very shallow spokes and should press a hinged valve into the barrel to block the airflow between shots and to prevent pressure escaping into the incoming facing of the wheel. Add a handle to wind the wheel when reloading... all these mechanisms would be time-consuming and prone to failure, but they would need to carry a few of the guns into battle anyway because reloading would be impractical at its effective ranges regardless. It probably wouldn't really matter if a few of them failed anyway, as they would be a cavalry action where shock is more important that consistency anyway. I imagine that we could get something that could at least startle multiple soldiers immediately prior to cavalry engaging them.

I do not actually support the automatic pistol, but I will put my name on its list if it is needed for a tie-breaker.

[Funk]

Funk did switch to the automatic version, although that still technically qualifies as "an air pistol for cavalry use" even if it isn't funny...

Ok so it's a bit over the top but cavalry are all about shock action, one close range burst and then in with the saber.

I would add that the loading wheel should be spring-loaded with very few, very shallow spokes and should press a hinged valve into the barrel to block the airflow between shots and to prevent pressure escaping into the incoming facing of the wheel. Add a handle to wind the wheel when reloading... all these mechanisms would be time-consuming and prone to failure, but they would need to carry a few of the guns into battle anyway because reloading would be impractical at its effective ranges regardless. It probably wouldn't really matter if a few of them failed anyway, as they would be a cavalry action where shock is more important that consistency anyway. I imagine that we could get something that could at least startle multiple soldiers immediately prior to cavalry engaging them.

I do not actually support the automatic pistol, but I will put my name on its list if it is needed for a tie-breaker.

Yes it's not that good of a design but it should be simpler than what you posted.
The wheel can be in line with the air flow and be free spinning so that air pushes it around and the tube magazine is spring loaded to push the next ball in to the wheel.

Yes we need some kind of vale control but a simple cam and rod linking the wheel to the valve trigger should do.

As for reloading the magazine, the magazine spring does not need to have much pressuriser.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

I do not actually support the automatic pistol, but I will put my name on its list if it is needed for a tie-breaker.

Less need a tiebreaker and more need more need a few votes on something.

[RAM]

In order for that to work the ammunition would need to be in an air-tight container. Otherwise the wheel could spin in either direction.

And I am happy to have my vote distributed at random, all of these suggestions seem useful, none of them stand out...

[Funk]

In order for that to work the ammunition would need to be in an air-tight container. Otherwise the wheel could spin in either direction.

Spinning the wheel back wards would be almost imposable, there is a ratchet just like in the Victoria II, to stop it from spinning backwards.

+1 to the The X Cavalry Pistol.
And does anyone have a better name of it? the X was just a stand in.

Spoiler: The X Cavalry Pistol (click to show/hide)

The X is a large pistol built for cavalry use.

It uses compressed air cartages like the Victoria II.
Unlike the Victoria II it is capable of full automatic fire.
It's loading wheel is in line with the air flow so the air works the ratchet but a external winding key is fitted as stranded.
Constricted to this it a simple cam and rod that links the loading wheel to the trigger mechanism.
 
The magazine is adapted from the Victoria II with a coil spring replacing gravity.
Fireing is simple the air spins the magazine wheel and so loading the next ball, then when the cam is in place the trigger is live and the gun can be fired.
If the trigger is held down then it can fire a continuous volley.

It is a large heavy pistol with a 9 1/5 inch barrel, and a 18 round magazine of .46 Caliber Shot.