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[Kashyyk]

Am-Mulard:B Class
Modeled on the same hull as the Am-Mulard:A, this ship has an improved engine, that neither suffers from the failure inducing shortcuts of its predecessor, nor the weight concerns. The hull has also been improved, bringing it up to par with the other warships of the Isles with regards to damage resistance and sea worthiness. Combining this with the addition of two small sails (at the fore and mizzen), this ship is no longer restricted to calm, still water. The ship carries 20 6lb guns, 10 aside, with two stern chaser ports cut to allow guns to be moved there. (Very Expensive)

An excellent roll there, and as you don't need to build a new dry dock,  you'll be pumping these out immediately.

Do you wish to obsolete the Am-Mulard:A?

Begin Espionage Phase

[Graknorke]

My baby is all grown up now ;_;
I suppose we should obsolete the A, it's more expensive and barely functions.

For espionage my feeling is that we should go for one of the more esoteric techs around. I'm not sure exactly what though.

[flazeo25]

My baby is all grown up now ;_;
I suppose we should obsolete the A, it's more expensive and barely functions.

For espionage my feeling is that we should go for one of the more esoteric techs around. I'm not sure exactly what though.

Since we got brilliant ship now should we try to get both phases out of way?

Wells heres the techs we could choose from to steal out of groups:

<Loyalists>
Dover-class Brig<Transport ship>
London-class Brig<War ship>
Imperial 6-pounder<Newer Cannon>
Loyalist new design
Loyalist new revision

<Confederacy>
Whateley Cavalry Pistol<Weapon for Cavalry>
Victory Air-rifle-II<Upgrade to I>
Confedracy new design
Confedracy new revision

<Ft Alton>
Infantry Shield<Defense>
Lord Locke<Weapon for Cavalry>

<Ft Combe Rements>
Coombe mini-Cannon<Early machine gun>

[Beneviento]

Come at us Loyalists! No point in not obsoleting the A. We don't really have anyone to trade with, so I think we should find a trade partner (looking at you Frenchies), and then build/steal a transport. Right now I think we should steal the loyalist improved cannons, the Pirates' cheaper cannons if we can still steal from them, or the pistol/carbine used by one of the independents.

[flazeo25]

Come at us Loyalists! No point in not obsoleting the A. We don't really have anyone to trade with, so I think we should find a trade partner (looking at you Frenchies), and then build/steal a transport. Right now I think we should steal the loyalist improved cannons, the Pirates' cheaper cannons if we can still steal from them, or the pistol/carbine used by one of the independents.

Well Dover-ship loyalists have is transport, their imperial cannons are just step up from our 6-pounders, pirates don't have as good tech while Confeds have two guns one a upgrade other cav gun and Combe rements have early machine gun.

Also Im pretty sure that American War of Independence ends this turn so Brits might start showing up at our door soon.

[evilcherry]

To save time:

Steal British Cannons
Produce more Am-Mulard:B
Focus on Montgomery and Nelson

[flazeo25]

To save time:

Steal British Cannons
Produce more Am-Mulard:B
Focus on Montgomery and Nelson

Think taking Montgomery might be bad since it open up another naval area for loyalist to attack us with. Bradford would be better suited since only Altons and Confeds will attack us there and Altons seems busy eatig up Confed and Combe terrority. Should we not get trader ships so we can sell our tech off to Frenchies?

[evilcherry]

To save time:

Steal British Cannons
Produce more Am-Mulard:B
Focus on Montgomery and Nelson

Think taking Montgomery might be bad since it open up another naval area for loyalist to attack us with. Bradford would be better suited since only Altons and Confeds will attack us there and Altons seems busy eatig up Confed and Combe terrority. Should we not get trader ships so we can sell our tech off to Frenchies?

Why Arguing for the sake of it?

We don't need that trader ship which is basically a repurposed Brig-sloop. We should aim for the actual big ships.
On the other hand, their cannon gives a much, much higher upper hand in naval combat. It would be foolish not to adopt them ASAP.

Both foci serves only 1 purpose: Relieve Port Silver.

[Snake1229]

I think we maybe should do counter espionage, because they would probably try to steal the howitzer

[evilcherry]

I think we maybe should do counter espionage, because they would probably try to steal the howitzer

Counterspying is explicitly prohibited.

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=153991.msg6618616#msg6618616

[Graknorke]

The improved cannons do indeed sound nice to have. Not that the other things don't, but they're reliably so.

[flazeo25]

To save time:

Steal British Cannons
Produce more Am-Mulard:B
Focus on Montgomery and Nelson

Sure then newer 6 ponders might help we can always make trader ship next revision. +1

[Snake1229]

I think we maybe should do counter espionage, because they would probably try to steal the howitzer

Counterspying is explicitly prohibited.

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=153991.msg6618616#msg6618616

Must of missed that, thanks, if so then I would support stealing their cannon

[flazeo25]

I think we maybe should do counter espionage, because they would probably try to steal the howitzer

Counterspying is explicitly prohibited.

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=153991.msg6618616#msg6618616

Must of missed that, thanks, if so then I would support stealing their cannon

I support getting cannon.

It's possible to sabotage though like screw up focus, production. Not sure if we can do infliration though?

[Kashyyk]

Define infiltration.