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[Sheb]

Apparently 75% yes in Belgium too. I guess it's related to origin of migrants: the Turks of Belgium and Netherlands who mostly came in guest-worker scheme are mostly from the Anatolia region which are staunchly pro-Erdogan. I guess the UK Turks are more recent immigrants from the cities.

Far from recent, the Turkish community in the UK is old, dates back centuries from when the English allied with/freed imprisoned Turks from Spanish rivals. The next big wave would come from the secular reformers, many of whom tried to reform the Ottoman Empire and were trained or educated mainly in Paris or London, and would take refuge in London over the course of the world war. The largest wave so far came mainly from Cyprus with loads of Turkish Cypriots, while the later mainland Anatolian Turks arriving tended to be students or highly educated professionals - not exactly the kinds of people appealed by the death of academic freedom

Uh, nice to learn.

[Jimmy]

In general political refugees from any country tend to be well educated middle class folk who see the writing on the wall and use their wealth and knowledge to break for greener pastures, despite what stereotypes would have you believe. If you could see your country was going to hell, you'd probably cut and run too.

[Starver]

In general political refugees from any country tend to be well educated middle class folk who see the writing on the wall and use their wealth and knowledge to break for greener pastures, despite what stereotypes would have you believe. If you could see your country was going to hell, you'd probably cut and run too.

Off-topic but related..?

[Starver]

Oh, hello Turkey. Up to your tricks again?

[Sheb]

The irony of the US complaining that Russia is breaking international law by arming the Talibans rather than sending weapons to the Afghan government is impressive.

[WealthyRadish]

“We support anyone who wants to help us advance the reconciliation process, but anyone who arms belligerents ... is not the best way forward to a peaceful reconciliation.”

“Any weapons being funneled here from a foreign country would be a violation of international law unless they were coming to the government of Afghanistan”

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[Sergarr]

Payback's a bitch.

[Dorsidwarf]

I'll be honest, I wouldn't put it past Russia to have no real goal there other than destabilising the American-supported status quo and getting payback for their own Afghanistani war. A lot of the current high ranking leaders there would be the right age to have fought in it, or lost family members in it, right?

[Antioch]

Turkey purges another 4000 people.

Who thought simply labeling the opposition as a terrorist group would be so effective?

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/turkey-expels-3-900-officials-second-post-referendum-purge-n752961

[redwallzyl]

Turkey purges another 4000 people.


Who thought simply labeling the opposition as a terrorist group would be so effective?

its fiiiiiine, Turkey says their not a dictatorship so they are obviously not! why would they lie to us? I'm sure everyone they are purging deserves it. /s

[scriver]

Well, since the EU agrees that Saudi-Arabia is not a dictatorship, Turkey can clearly not be considered one by any means.

[Antioch]

Turkey blocks wikipedia.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/29/turkey-blocks-wikipedia-under-law-designed-to-protect-national-security

Turkey not a dictatorship confirmed.

[smjjames]

Well, since the EU agrees that Saudi-Arabia is not a dictatorship, Turkey can clearly not be considered one by any means.

That's because Saudi Arabia is a Monarchy, though an absolute one.

[Antioch]

Well, since the EU agrees that Saudi-Arabia is not a dictatorship, Turkey can clearly not be considered one by any means.

That's because Saudi Arabia is a Monarchy, though an absolute one.

Uh, since when are absolute monarchies not dictatorships?

[ChairmanPoo]

Well, since the EU agrees that Saudi-Arabia is not a dictatorship, Turkey can clearly not be considered one by any means.

Sauce? I find it hard to believe  any country or institution in the West claims such a thing...

I mean everyone humors them, but claiming the sky is green is something else altogether