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Dunamisdeos

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Dwarf Mode Stealth Mode!
« on: August 07, 2015, 03:07:13 pm »

Was just thinking how in a military-centric defense system how nice it would be to command a squad of dwarves to enter ambush mode.

They would enter stealth while defending burrows or patrolling. This would enable much more strategy in fort defense, and make light armor/ranged units more effective aside from parking them on walls. I mean really, invaders can do it, why not people who actually live on the land and know it (presumably) better?
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Re: Dwarf Mode Stealth Mode!
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2015, 04:17:54 pm »

+1 to this. Now I can finally do gurrila warfare on the sieges outside my fortress.  :D
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Re: Dwarf Mode Stealth Mode!
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2015, 06:00:03 pm »

Funny, I've been doing gorilla warfare at every opportunity now. They're pretty beast as long as you add TRAINABLE_WAR to the raws.

I like the idea of giving ambushers a taste of their own medicine though. Invisible squads of shooters would definitely work as well defending as attacking.
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Re: Dwarf Mode Stealth Mode!
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2015, 06:47:27 pm »

Invisible squads of shooters would definitely work as well defending as attacking.
Would a marksdwarf standing on top of a wall, behind fortifications, be able to enter stealth at all, as that's exactly where an enemy would expect her to be anyway? Sure, they might not know which arrow-slit she'll shoot from, but it's not like her presence would be a surprise.
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Re: Dwarf Mode Stealth Mode!
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2015, 07:25:53 pm »

Invisible squads of shooters would definitely work as well defending as attacking.
Would a marksdwarf standing on top of a wall, behind fortifications, be able to enter stealth at all, as that's exactly where an enemy would expect her to be anyway? Sure, they might not know which arrow-slit she'll shoot from, but it's not like her presence would be a surprise.

I think that the answer to this is that if the AI can do it, dwarves should be able to as well. Kobolds can stand directly in the entryway to your fort and be unseen.
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Re: Dwarf Mode Stealth Mode!
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2015, 07:11:40 am »

While dwarf has bad stealth, some other race can certainly be very stealthy.

Kobold fort - City of the invisible.
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Re: Dwarf Mode Stealth Mode!
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2015, 10:06:38 am »

It would still be helpful, even if just to stop goblins from seeing them until they are in each other's range.
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Re: Dwarf Mode Stealth Mode!
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2015, 11:02:27 am »

I'm imagining twenty marksdwarves, all in the same tree...
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Re: Dwarf Mode Stealth Mode!
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2015, 11:10:15 am »

I'm imagining twenty marksdwarves, all in the same tree...
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Re: Dwarf Mode Stealth Mode!
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2015, 07:46:47 am »

Well hunters do that already if they spot an enemy during the hunt. Although once they run out of bolts they drop out of stealth and run screaming back to the fort.
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Re: Dwarf Mode Stealth Mode!
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2015, 12:07:01 pm »

Maybe you could set a squad to a similar mode where they prowl around looking for invaders?
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