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[Orange Wizard]

i'd think it would be pretty tedious paging through 20+ planets upgrading buildings yourself like some kind of real-estate developer when you should be running an empire

It worked in EU4, sort of. Apart from the lag.

I think system limit makes more sense than planet limit, myself. Having a limit to the number of (colonised) systems a sector can hold would also be reasonable; assuming they up the sector limit a bit.

[Catastrophic lolcats]

I didn't know you could build sectors up to a couple minutes ago.

[Teneb]

Re: influence. I don't know how it is with autocracies or oligarchies, but with republics every election you get a mandate mission that gives influence as a reward.

[Majestic7]

I think system limit would make more sense than planet limit, yeah. Although I don't care that much for planetary micromanagement anyway. I miss Distant Stars -style automatic stuff; I'd like to see civilian ships zipping around doing their things. Maybe we get trade and civilian economy in the future.

[forsaken1111]

Hm. Now I'm thinking about playing a game where everything except Sol is in a sector and managed by AI. Less micromanagement, but the sector keeps at minimum 25% of resources but that doesn't matter if you keep adding to the sector, they keep reinvesting

[Loud Whispers]

It's part of the scissor-paper-rock balance they've got going on. On paper it doesn't seem too bad, it gives crafty nations that specialises their weapons against their enemies a better chance. However the system quickly breaks apart when you're reminded that there's no espionage system and figuring out what weapons an enemy has is tedium. This results in combat being a crap-shot of whether you or the enemy has the magically combo.

RAPID WARTIME ADAPTION
Or alternatively, try to maintain an even spread of rock, laser, missile and when encountering a space foe, upgrading your obsolete fleets whilst your current ones/stations hold the foe at bay?
That or test the waters first

[Knave]

Is there a way to see a list of possible colony candidates? Or are you just looking through the systems to see which one appeals to you?

[umiman]

Played for about 10 hours.

Thoughts:

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1. Why is the planet limit so low? I agree it should be by system instead. Seriously, how are you supposed to play the large maps with such tiny planet counts? Sure you can give them to sectors but then you just open the tedious can of worms that is the goddamn faction system (it's so boring, worthless, and completely lacking in personality).

2. Why can't you see what the enemy's ship's stats are?

3. Don't ever attack the space cows / jellyfish. The aggro and message spam will never end.

4. Diplomacy is tedious. There's way too many limitations to the system and it's easier to just let the AI send you the requests instead of you bothering trying to balance out their nonsensical requirements. Just arranging a non-aggression pact shouldn't be this difficult.

5. This game needs more automation for its ships. There's really no reason why I can't just set the science / constructors to "auto" and leave them without having to micromanage them. Especially considering how they become completely idle when they get interrupted by hostiles. Hell, there should be some option to put individual colonies on auto without having to resort to the sector system.

6. Where are my mapmodes? Why isn't there a way to turn off the ugliness that is the sector white polygons? Maybe I want to look at space without all the primary colours blaring at me?

7. I wish there was some way to tell what your borders will end up being if you scrap a frontier outpost. Right now you have to save, delete it, hope it doesn't break everything, if not load the save. Good luck doing that in ironman.

8. Hey, quest dude. Don't give me timed quests inside fallen empire space. I can't get there.

9. Why can't I queue up tech research? It's annoying having to manually go and set it every time it ends. Not to mention it's pretty happy letting you continue to play on max speed before casually sending you a notice saying "hey, just fyi, you might have some tech to research mmkay."

10. Why do I have to press a button to zoom out to the galaxy map? Why not just make it fluid with the scroll? I don't even need a transition. I'm perfectly okay with it just jumping from galaxy to system view if they could just make it scrollable.

11. Why isn't there a list of colonizable planets / workable resources I can look through instead of having to scour the entire map?

12. The influence system is stupid.

13. Why can't I retrofit defense platforms?

14. When you're proposing war as an alliance / federation, you have to carefully balance the goals so everyone is happy. However, when the AI does it, it doesn't give a flying fuck about other people.

15. Why can't I build spaceport modules / buildings from the empire planets screen?

BRB going to play for another 10 hours.

[Sirbug]

I really hoped systems would be like counties in CKII. What we got is unbearably confusing.

[Orange Wizard]

Played for about 10 hours.

Thoughts:

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1. Why is the planet limit so low? I agree it should be by system instead. Seriously, how are you supposed to play the large maps with such tiny planet counts? Sure you can give them to sectors but then you just open the tedious can of worms that is the goddamn faction system (it's so boring, worthless, and completely lacking in personality).

2. Why can't you see what the enemy's ship's stats are?

3. Don't ever attack the space cows / jellyfish. The aggro and message spam will never end.

4. Diplomacy is tedious. There's way too many limitations to the system and it's easier to just let the AI send you the requests instead of you bothering trying to balance out their nonsensical requirements. Just arranging a non-aggression pact shouldn't be this difficult.

5. This game needs more automation for its ships. There's really no reason why I can't just set the science / constructors to "auto" and leave them without having to micromanage them. Especially considering how they become completely idle when they get interrupted by hostiles. Hell, there should be some option to put individual colonies on auto without having to resort to the sector system.

6. Where are my mapmodes? Why isn't there a way to turn off the ugliness that is the sector white polygons? Maybe I want to look at space without all the primary colours blaring at me?

7. I wish there was some way to tell what your borders will end up being if you scrap a frontier outpost. Right now you have to save, delete it, hope it doesn't break everything, if not load the save. Good luck doing that in ironman.

8. Hey, quest dude. Don't give me timed quests inside fallen empire space. I can't get there.

9. Why can't I queue up tech research? It's annoying having to manually go and set it every time it ends. Not to mention it's pretty happy letting you continue to play on max speed before casually sending you a notice saying "hey, just fyi, you might have some tech to research mmkay."

10. Why do I have to press a button to zoom out to the galaxy map? Why not just make it fluid with the scroll? I don't even need a transition. I'm perfectly okay with it just jumping from galaxy to system view if they could just make it scrollable.

11. Why isn't there a list of colonizable planets / workable resources I can look through instead of having to scour the entire map?

12. The influence system is stupid.

13. Why can't I retrofit defense platforms?

14. When you're proposing war as an alliance / federation, you have to carefully balance the goals so everyone is happy. However, when the AI does it, it doesn't give a flying fuck about other people.

15. Why can't I build spaceport modules / buildings from the empire planets screen?

BRB going to play for another 10 hours.

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1. Agreed

2. You can, it's just obtuse. You have to select one of their fleets and click the little magnifying glass icon next to one of the ships.

3. They'll also wreck your corvettes if you don't upgrade armour

4. It's kinda wonky. The acceptance values for some things need to be tweaked (and in some cases set to 0) but that should make it fine. Need more diplomatic options in general too.

5. Oh yeah, definitely. There's times with craptons of debris everywhere and it's not worth collecting solely because of the finicky clicking around.

6. Stars, Diplomatic, Diplomatic Detail (sectors, etc.), Habitability, Pops, Technology

7. Frontier outposts are vile, horrible things

8. WELL WHY DON'T YOU INVADE THEM

9. IIRC tech points will stockpile up, so you won't waste any

10. Yes

11. Yes

12. No

13. Yes

I really hoped systems would be like counties in CKII. What we got is unbearably confusing.

Yes

[Biowraith]

Is there a way to see a list of possible colony candidates? Or are you just looking through the systems to see which one appeals to you?

There's not a list, unfortunately.

However, in the bottom right corner, there's a square icon for "Details Mapmode".  If you tick that, when viewing the galaxy map any system with a habitable planet will have what I think is a globe icon next to the star.  If you've not surveyed the planet, it'll be grey.  If you have it'll either be red (you can't currently colonise there), green (you have a race with that planet type preference in your empire), or yellow (you have a race with that can colonise there, but it's not a preferred type).  If you have a colony ship selected, I think the colours update to reflect specifically the race on that ship.

It's not as good as an actual list, but I find you can generally spot the green and/or yellow ones without too much effort.

(and I really don't know what Details Mapmode isn't on by default, playing without it on is a pain)

[forsaken1111]

Yeah you never have to worry about research. Even when research is 'paused' while you're doing a project you lose nothing, the points stockpile and then are used up at 2x the normal rate once its unpaused or you select something so you hardly even lose any time.

(and I really don't know what Details Mapmode isn't on by default, playing without it on is a pain)

I play with it off, you can toggle it easily by pressing ALT

[Aklyon]

Theres different comet sighted messages for xenophile and xenophobe.

Also, someone added in a basic play as androids mod.

[umiman]

These guys showed up in my game.

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[forsaken1111]

It will change from neutral as soon as you let some time pass. Its a placeholder for newly spawned AI