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« Reply #810 on: August 09, 2015, 07:22:23 am »

Wow, PTW.
This is incredibly interesting, I wonder if I looked enough I would find a pattern among the designs, like America's 'Quantity over Quality' approach.

Well, we (Arstotzka) started with a Quantity focus, mostly on relatively small improvement that we could deploy across all theaters. Moksburg started with a Size focus, making large, expensive equipment. Since then, the difference are less marked, a faction of designer favoring more advanced, complex design gained prominence in Arstotzka, giving us stuff like the AT-25 that we can barely afford even with the plains, while Moksburg finally realized the benefits of large amount of lighter weapons with stuff like the Brumby.
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« Reply #811 on: August 09, 2015, 07:25:56 am »

Wow, PTW.
This is incredibly interesting, I wonder if I looked enough I would find a pattern among the designs, like America's 'Quantity over Quality' approach.

Well, we (Arstotzka) started with a Quantity focus, mostly on relatively small improvement that we could deploy across all theaters. Moksburg started with a Size focus, making large, expensive equipment. Since then, the difference are less marked, a faction of designer favoring more advanced, complex design gained prominence in Arstotzka, giving us stuff like the AT-25 that we can barely afford even with the plains, while Moksburg finally realized the benefits of large amount of lighter weapons with stuff like the Brumby.

To be fair, the tank was only so expensive because we got shitty rolls on cheapening a couple techs we were hoping to cheapen. Once we iron out once and for all the costs associated with the engine, it'll only be merely Expensive(and for a tank, that's all you can really ask for, or need for that matter. Don't need a tank for every soldier!)
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« Reply #812 on: August 09, 2015, 07:27:00 am »


Both nations are spending their expense credits on their main battle tanks (the AS-T25 and the T2 Breaker) this turn, bringing them from Very Expensive to Expensive. However, Moskurg is suffering from an ore shortage due to rebel attacks. With only 1 ore and 2 oil, Moskurg factories are crippled, and everyone is melting the brass buttons off of their clothes just to make bullet casings. Luckily, the T2 Breaker remains Very Expensive, with a deficit of 4 resources.


So was the T2 Expensive or Very Expensive?
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« Reply #813 on: August 09, 2015, 07:28:20 am »

I believe it ended up Very Expensive.
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« Reply #814 on: August 09, 2015, 07:30:14 am »

Wow, PTW.
This is incredibly interesting, I wonder if I looked enough I would find a pattern among the designs, like America's 'Quantity over Quality' approach.

Well, we (Arstotzka) started with a Quantity focus, mostly on relatively small improvement that we could deploy across all theaters. Moksburg started with a Size focus, making large, expensive equipment. Since then, the difference are less marked, a faction of designer favoring more advanced, complex design gained prominence in Arstotzka, giving us stuff like the AT-25 that we can barely afford even with the plains, while Moksburg finally realized the benefits of large amount of lighter weapons with stuff like the Brumby.

To be fair, the tank was only so expensive because we got shitty rolls on cheapening a couple techs we were hoping to cheapen. Once we iron out once and for all the costs associated with the engine, it'll only be merely Expensive(and for a tank, that's all you can really ask for, or need for that matter. Don't need a tank for every soldier!)

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« Reply #815 on: August 09, 2015, 07:32:43 am »

A cheap vehicle doesn't mean a vehicle for every soldier, it just means that every soldier can ride in them instead of walking. For example, our motorbikes can take two soldiers at once, meaning we have half as many motorbikes as we do soldiers.
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« Reply #816 on: August 09, 2015, 07:36:42 am »

Well, Cheap mean you can field as many as your cammander would like. For a rifle, it could be every soldiers, but for a plane it would just mean enough for all your pilots. Cheap is always better than expensive.

So if the Breaker was more expensive than our tanks, why isnt that mentioned in the battle report?

Also, in the tech, Belt-Fed MG is listed as expensive for Moksburg, while I guess it should be Cheap since their Sorraia isnt Expensive.
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« Reply #817 on: August 09, 2015, 07:38:28 am »

So if the Breaker was more expensive than our tanks, why isnt that mentioned in the battle report?
Both the Breaker and the T25 are Very Expensive. This turn, both Moskurg and Arstotzka used their Expense credits to make their tanks cheaper. Both the Breaker and the T25 were Expensive this turn.
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« Reply #818 on: August 09, 2015, 07:43:02 am »

Yeah, but a bit later, Sensei mention that the Ore shortage makes the Breaker Very Expensive again.
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« Reply #819 on: August 09, 2015, 07:44:36 am »

Yeah, but a bit later, Sensei mention that the Ore shortage makes the Breaker Very Expensive again.
He said that the Breaker continued to be base Very Expensive. With the Expense credit, it was brought down to Expensive.
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« Reply #820 on: August 09, 2015, 07:47:13 am »

Cheap is always better than expensive.

Not always. Moskurg's Rhino and our artillery didn't benefit from their cheapness, as you don't want hundreds of soldiers using those.
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« Reply #821 on: August 09, 2015, 07:52:21 am »

Sensei I am really curious... What happened with Russian T15s? How they influenced the civil war? Did they develop it further? Did they create their own steam tanks?
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« Reply #822 on: August 09, 2015, 07:53:29 am »

I cannot wait for Operation Barbarossa to succeed because all the Soviet tanks are useless coal-fired monstruosities.
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« Reply #823 on: August 09, 2015, 07:55:59 am »

unless they actually perfected the technology to the point they have steampunk land-dreadnoughts. which will be far too easily bombed, but still...

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« Reply #824 on: August 09, 2015, 07:58:18 am »

You know, by 39, with current rate of getting advanced weapons.... United Florenia will be able to conquer the world. They are very lucky that we are at war and not allied.
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