Anyway, what initially made me go back to this thread, but which I somehow didn't get around to posting about, is the idea, the realization of the possibility that if the upper planes were presented in as over the top a manner as the lower planes than they might be almost as noxious as the lower planes.
A couple of days ago I came across the writings of a british hippie philosopher with a plan for a utopian world that involved forcibly wireheading everyone and genetically modifying predator and omnivore species so that they can only eat plants (which even
I think is going too far and I'm in favor of almost any kind of playing god you can name including, but not limited to, GMO foods, stem cell research, bring back the mastadons, vat meat, human cloning, human cloning for vat meat, uploaded consciousness, dr.moreau surgery, and the reanimation of the dead; and even
I think this guy's proposals go too far. But I digress...) and it occurred to me that
this is what the Upper Planes should look like (or at least the lawful good planes as there's a control freak undertone to it); not just good, but good distilled to the point where it ceases to be sane and peppered with things every bit as bizarre and impractical as the things in the lower planes.
Does 4e really count as canon?
Not only is the answer yes... but a hilarious yes. As the hoops they had to go through to convert it is amazing!
Basically the settings go through a "Post-Crisis" after every edition.
They should have just waved the whole thing off as having been a bad dream, like in
Postal: Paradise Lost where
Postal 3 was dismissed as having been a coma fantasy.