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Re: Fallout 4: The Flesh of Your Fellow Man Can Provide...
« Reply #1920 on: September 23, 2015, 04:03:34 pm »

Yeah, like. My 5-END sniper with mid-tier armor can tank a hit from a deathclaw. It's not like their locations aren't heavily telegraphed, either. The only place that gave me trouble was the interior space at that one quarry, since there weren't good places to set up landmine paths or climb up out of reach... so I just lured them outside, jumped off the catwalk, and there ya go.
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« Reply #1921 on: September 23, 2015, 04:06:54 pm »

Decided to see what is the most damaging creature in both 3 and NV for fun. In short, the alpha male deathclaw is by far the hardest hitter.
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« Reply #1922 on: September 23, 2015, 04:16:59 pm »

Decided to see what is the most damaging creature in both 3 and NV for fun. In short, the alpha male deathclaw is by far the hardest hitter.

Well, actually...
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« Reply #1923 on: September 23, 2015, 04:18:38 pm »

Decided to see what is the most damaging creature in both 3 and NV for fun. In short, the alpha male deathclaw is by far the hardest hitter.

Well, actually...
Well, looks like I was wrong. I checked the legendary cazador and it had a lower attack, so I incorrectly assumed it was the same for the bloatfly. Still, it's actually amusing that the strongest enemy in the game is a giant fly.
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« Reply #1924 on: September 23, 2015, 04:20:01 pm »

Heh, I like the dropped items list.  Interactive storytelling.
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« Reply #1925 on: September 23, 2015, 06:36:32 pm »

Decided to see what is the most damaging creature in both 3 and NV for fun. In short, the alpha male deathclaw is by far the hardest hitter.

Well, actually...
Well, looks like I was wrong. I checked the legendary cazador and it had a lower attack, so I incorrectly assumed it was the same for the bloatfly. Still, it's actually amusing that the strongest enemy in the game is a giant fly.

Sort of. It doesn't have the ability to chain you to death.
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« Reply #1926 on: September 23, 2015, 06:52:52 pm »

You mean that deathclaws knockdown?  I don't remember that, but then again I mostly played as a frail geek and a tough-as-nails Legion bitch, also drunk.
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« Reply #1927 on: September 23, 2015, 06:59:13 pm »

Decided to see what is the most damaging creature in both 3 and NV for fun. In short, the alpha male deathclaw is by far the hardest hitter.

Well, actually...
Well, looks like I was wrong. I checked the legendary cazador and it had a lower attack, so I incorrectly assumed it was the same for the bloatfly. Still, it's actually amusing that the strongest enemy in the game is a giant fly.

Sort of. It doesn't have the ability to chain you to death.
It doesn't need to. It has a ranged attack, so you can't kite it.
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« Reply #1928 on: September 23, 2015, 07:03:03 pm »

You fight the Legendary Bloatfly in a spot with plenty of cover littered all over the place. Intentionally so because that is essentially a boss.

It is why I said that there are enemies tougher and harder then the Deathclaw.

Yet even then its attack is more reasonable then the Deathclaw in spite its damage output.
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« Reply #1929 on: September 23, 2015, 07:04:53 pm »

Yeah I don't even remember fighting the legendary bloatfly, but fighting a ranged enemy with cover is easy compared to a deathclaw.
With a deathclaw, everything suddenly comes down to your DPS.
If your damage and armor is high enough you *might* get an extra attack.
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« Reply #1930 on: September 23, 2015, 07:07:33 pm »

That's why YCS/186 is your friend.  :P
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« Reply #1931 on: September 23, 2015, 07:51:22 pm »

Yeah I don't even remember fighting the legendary bloatfly, but fighting a ranged enemy with cover is easy compared to a deathclaw.
With a deathclaw, everything suddenly comes down to your DPS.
If your damage and armor is high enough you *might* get an extra attack.

The Legendary Bloatfly is completely optional and out of your way in Old World Blues and the reward isn't worth your time (as it just amounts to being the master of killing bloatflies)
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« Reply #1932 on: September 23, 2015, 08:08:35 pm »

I wasn't sure, but I thought it was like that.
I'm fine missing that fight, bloatflies are easy XP.

Cazadors on the other hand.  Oh man.  I wish the Big Empty did *more* to combat those fuckin atrocities.
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though from a gameplay perspective, I welcome the challenge.
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« Reply #1933 on: September 23, 2015, 08:48:22 pm »

I'm not ashamed to admit that cazadors are the one thing where I still use VATS instead of bullettime.
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« Reply #1934 on: September 24, 2015, 02:50:25 am »

Damn cazadores. Can't fight them in melee because theu WILL poison you. I usually use an automatic or a fast semi-auto to fight them. One of the few enemies I'm willing to use grenades/explosives (not mines, I mean rockets) on.

Hell, I even punch radscorpions at higher levels, since they are slower and actually stagger. Cazadores just instantly poison you if they get close, so even if I can oneshot them it still hurts.
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