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[Shadowlord]

Someday we gamers will go into politics and fix this shit instead of letting old crones make the decisions...

Spoiler: POLITICS (click to show/hide)

Yeah right. You have to beg for money constantly in order to be able to pay for your next run, you have to run awful ads (which nowadays most people with sense manages to avoid entirely, and anyone who doesn't will probably hate your guts for spamming them with nonstop political ads unless you manage to make them more terrified of your opponent than your opponent does of you), you have to deal with voters who are ruled by fear, rage, and illogic, and you have to somehow work with the people representing those voters. Oh, and you have to get elected in a world filled with those voters.

I don't know if politics is better or worse in Australia than the USA, but considering you managed to get Tony Abbott as your Prime Minister, and kept him for two years... I'm assuming not as awful as the USA; Abbott actually got kicked out of office - that never happened to W (of course if it had, it would have only made Dick Cheney President).

So good luck with that. We've already got an entire generation turning away from politics because of this shit in the US; It looks like the houses of congress spend all their time arguing and repeatedly passing bills that they KNOW cannot become law. Over and over again.

It's like being in your living room and running into your wall face-first and then saying (after you come to) "Look, I tried to knock the house down, honest to God! This is like the 500th time! I don't see what the problem is!"

Bohanadas: What about Germany? My understanding is that most companies seem to change things just for Germany to make it work, like giving everyone green blood or removing the stuff Germany doesn't allow.

[Bohandas]

In any case they should definitely limit the sale of the bastardized version to the countries in question and release the original correct version in countries that have free speech.

[Graknorke]

That's what they did for Fallout 1 and 2. They didn't want to do it for 3 onwards because lazy.

Also I'm pretty sure this doesn't come under freedom of speech. Age restrictions on media are pretty standard for things that are films are games and sometimes music I think?

[miauw62]

Yes, butinsane countriesthey'renotlegallybinding.

[Rolan7]

I haven't checked I'm glad I checked.  Up until 2011, R18+ didn't exist in Australia.  Games were instead "Refused Classification" and simply banned.  So, there's been progress.

... Except, no, Saints Row 4 and State of Decay were refused classification recently.  Even as R18+.  They were banned for "graphic sexual violence" (an "anal probe" weapon in SR4) and use of illegal drugs as powerups (both).

So...  If Fallout did call the drugs drugs, or clearly admitted that some of them were real old-world drugs, it would *still* be banned.  "Refused Classification".

[Bohandas]

What a bunch of asshole busybodies

[KingofstarrySkies]

Oh, Australia.

[Bohandas]

Also I'm pretty sure this doesn't come under freedom of speech.

Freedom of the Press then.

[Krevsin]

Also I'm pretty sure this doesn't come under freedom of speech.

Freedom of the Press then.

Not that either.

The closest you can get is Freedom of Artistic Expression, but very few people with actual power in their hands consider games as an art form.

[Neonivek]

I am kind of surprised by the game's sort of power seep in this case.

Both power armor and energy weapons used to be end of the game equipment where you seriously could start taking on cities because no one really stands a chance against you. Yet now they are low to mid-tier starting points where ordinary armor is often just as good or in a few cases even better.

[KingofstarrySkies]

...
There was a laser pistol in the starting house in NV...

[GiglameshDespair]

In FO 1 energy weapons were just about better than all the others, yeah. A turbo plasma rifle was pretty much the weapon of choice.

FO2 there were a lot more guns, powerful guns, and a lot more enemies very resistant to energy weapons, especially towards the end.

F3 and NV, of course, energy weapons were much more plentiful, and equal to guns (roughly).

So that was only really true for the first game. But I do agree about the power armour, for the most part.

[Rolan7]

Heck, the guides I read for Fallout Tactics indicated that energy (and small) weapons were practically useless at the end - only big guns were practical.  Though it was a guide, so they may have just been best.

[Wimopy]

Fo3 kinda justifief it with the Enclave-BoS fight. They're the guys who have power armour, so they should use it.

The problem I see is that power armour feels weaker than ot should be. I mean, a half-naked Viper with a peashooter that's in worse condition than Megaton after the nuke detonates can easily pick you off.
I think the fact that the world scales doesn't do good. Or if it does scale, give upper limits to some enemies. Kinda like how Borderlands 2 had it in the first playthrough.

[Neonivek]

Heck, the guides I read for Fallout Tactics indicated that energy (and small) weapons were practically useless at the end - only big guns were practical.  Though it was a guide, so they may have just been best.

No I could believe it. Sometimes games overcompensate against the best weapons and end up giving enemies such resistances that it makes them nigh useless.

Small... Yeah. They were always kind of not something you brought to the final fight. Though for most of the game they were a solid option especially when it came to ammo conservation. Though you always knew that in advance and often covered your weapons.

I think the fact that the world scales doesn't do good. Or if it does scale, give upper limits to some enemies. Kinda like how Borderlands 2 had it in the first playthrough.

Fallout 3 kind of did scaling well. In that while things do scale to your level, you gain power much faster then they do. So early on 3 bandits is a deadly encounter, but later on you can take on 15 of them (some of them with rocket launchers). It helped that the scaling wasn't obscene like in Oblivion... Even a end game bandit isn't that much tougher then the starting bandits (I think at max they are only... twice as tough)

New Vegas had the same scaling system to my knowledge. Yet it suffered from the fact that it never likes to send more then 3 enemies after you (or 4 I forget) and never changed things up. So those three assassins were the same random encounter you got at level 5 through infinity, and that was it.