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[Mephisto]

Cool, thanks. For some reason, I was thinking you meant a tabletop RPG. Anyway, I'll definitely check it out.

[Kagus]

Cool, thanks. For some reason, I was thinking you meant a tabletop RPG. Anyway, I'll definitely check it out.

Yeah, my wording was rather ambiguous, but my brain hung up its coat for the weekend a few hours ago. I was lucky enough to get something that was even legible, let alone understandable.

EDIT: I didn't really play the thing long enough to get good at it (the turn limit is rather constraining), but I can tell you that certain class/background combinations can end up giving you multiple "bones" (dice) for a single card suit. If I remember correctly, this lets you roll both and take the more advantageous result for a given challenge, which makes having duplicate bones actually fairly useful.

[Jimmy]

Pathfinder, aside from the Deck of Many Things which was imported from 3.5e, also includes a lore-specific deck of tarot style cards called harrow cards, though there's 54 cards in this deck. They're divided into the six stats (Strength, Dexterity, etc.) and have nine versions for each stat representing a specific alignment (Lawful Good, Neutral Good, etc.) which I think is a great way to divide up the cards.

[Hanslanda]

I would make use of the tarot for their intended purpose; allegory for what is next in the scenario playing games

Cartomancy using tarot decks came like 3-4 hundred years later.

Regular playing cards have a much older history of cartomancy IIRC. Tarot cards are less than 100-150~ years old. Playing cards are ancient.

[Mephisto]

Tarot cards are less than 100-150~ years old.

Source? My research is saying that tarot has been around since the 1400s.

But I think we're far enough off the rpg rails now. I should probably head off to a game dev place.

[scriver]

Tarot's current standard and usage as "magic" is that young. Tarot's history is congruent to playing cards, since that's what they originally were. Tarot appears during the 14th or 15th century (simultaneously to when the French standard that we know as the "common" deck today appears) as simply a five suited deck for playing particular card games.

[Persus13]

I believe Curse of Strahd for 5e had a Tarot reading that affected the plot of the adventure. I wish I could say more about that, but I was a player, and the session the tarot reading was in was the last session of that game, so I don't know how much of an impact it has.

I've seen a few RPGs where there's a mechanic where you have flashbacks or flash forwards to a scene and that changes the impact of a roll or the plot. Maybe you could use tarot cards with that mechanic somehow?

[birdy51]

Sort of like Blades in the Dark? Maybe. But I think that would be a bit on the tough end. It's maybe a bit easier to read into a character backstory and try to appropriately make a note of a few cards that tie into that thing. Tower, for instance, works really nicely for noble PCs who are about to have everything they know and love tossed into the gutter.

[Kagus]

Okay, so, hang on a sec... I'm reviewing some 5e Druid stuff, and realizing a couple things.

First of all, the text for Entangle indicates that the grasp-and-hold proc only occurs once, when the spell is cast. If you weren't in the initial casting zone, break free, or otherwise don't get bound by the first blast, you'll never get grasped by that casting of Entangle. Concentrating on the spell only keeps current bindings (those who failed their original strength save and every successive save on the turns after), and maintains the area as "difficult terrain". I feel sad.


But looking beyond that, I see that the description of Wild Shape doesn't seem to make any mention of restrictions on size or Multiattack. So... A level 2 Moon Druid could just shift into a brown bear and start slinging out a Multiattack of 1d8+4/2d6+4 every round. At level 2. Twice every short rest.

Throw in 2 levels of fighter, and you can action surge for two Multiattacks in one turn, once per short rest.


Seems a wee bit crazy, if'n you ask me... Certainly crazier than Tempest Cleric 2/Mountain Land Druid 5 and maxing out a lightning bolt every so often.

[Criptfeind]

Yeah. Wildshape (specially for a moon druid) is wildly op at low levels, especially during, well, actual play. It's balanced against their internal idea of what your encounters rate and difficulty should be. But imo the basic assumption of fighting like 8 easy to normal encounters per day is super unrealistic and 5es biggest balance problem. I've found makes a lot of "per day" stuff in D&D a lot stronger, like spellcasters and wildshape, since they have I win buttons that are suppose to be wasted on like, two wolves at level 2 but end up taking out most of the threats that they'll face in a day with a single use.

Also fighter 2 is obviously pretty stronk for wildshape but fighter 2 is pretty stronk for basically every character.

[Persus13]

Wildshape isn't even a per day though. You get 2 per short rest. Its okay without the Moon Druid subclass, but with the Moon Druid, its insanely good. I'd never multiclass into Fighter as a Moon Druid though, or at least, not before Level 10.

First of all, the text for Entangle indicates that the grasp-and-hold proc only occurs once, when the spell is cast. If you weren't in the initial casting zone, break free, or otherwise don't get bound by the first blast, you'll never get grasped by that casting of Entangle. Concentrating on the spell only keeps current bindings (those who failed their original strength save and every successive save on the turns after), and maintains the area as "difficult terrain". I feel sad.

Entangle is still damn good on the first casting. Most of the time you cast it, one turn is enough.

But looking beyond that, I see that the description of Wild Shape doesn't seem to make any mention of restrictions on size or Multiattack. So... A level 2 Moon Druid could just shift into a brown bear and start slinging out a Multiattack of 1d8+4/2d6+4 every round. At level 2. Twice every short rest.

Throw in 2 levels of fighter, and you can action surge for two Multiattacks in one turn, once per short rest.


Seems a wee bit crazy, if'n you ask me... Certainly crazier than Tempest Cleric 2/Mountain Land Druid 5 and maxing out a lightning bolt every so often.

Brown bear has great damage, but if your DM is worth their salt, opponents will prioritize you and it doesn't really have the stats to tank hits. If you're playing with a melee character Dire Wolf is better.

[Criptfeind]

Wildshape isn't even a per day though. You get 2 per short rest. Its okay without the Moon Druid subclass, but with the Moon Druid, its insanely good. I'd never multiclass into Fighter as a Moon Druid though, or at least, not before Level 10.

Hah, yeah, good point. I should have said "limited use" abilities I guess.

[Mephisto]

Since dungeons weren't prominent in my last 5e game, I'd just go (non-Moon) druid with a bard dip. Ten rounds of 3d10 minimum damage for the cost of one 3rd or higher slot. And bard so you can viciously mock your enemies with your near-useless bonus action. Who knows, maybe the 10d10 didn't kill the dude but the 4d4 did.

[Persus13]

How do you use Vicious Mockery as a bonus action?

[Mephisto]

My bad. It's been a while since my game ended. Must have been a different cantrip - I seem to recall one being a bonus action.