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After reading through that article, it sounds like it's a bad game, but it's not really worth comparing to F.A.T.A.L. It's a bad port of bad digital games to tabletop (which is kind of cool, since it is usually the other way around). It's got stupid rules, to be sure! But it seems to be a rough and ugly piece of shit.
F.A.T.A.L. is a polished piece of shit: you can see the craftsmanship, and you want to play it to revel in the absolute horror. It's an odd kind of masochism.
But VTNL just doesn't interest me. Honestly, from a game design standpoint, it's interesting. The mechanics are different from anything else I've seen outside of forum games. Hell, it could make a pretty interesting forum game.
But it's not F.A.T.A.L. F.A.T.A.L. has a certain... eldritch horror that this can't reach.

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Yeah, I briefly considered mentioning FATAL there, but decided it wasn't really in the same league. Like, in terms of badness from "best-worst" to "plain old bad", the scale is probably something like FATAL -> deadEarth -> Synnibarr -> uh, SenZar maybe? -> VTNL, with HYBRID floating somewhere in the void between dimensions.

Still though. The game literally instructs the GM to give dialogue like video game shopkeepers. You've gotta admit there's something just kind of charmingly stupid about how the author expects the players to enjoy following the barebones rules to the letter, not even with Synnibarr's rules about what happens if the rules are broken, but rather with the mindset that the players wouldn't even dare break the rules as set forth in the player's guide instruction manual.
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Yeah, I briefly considered mentioning FATAL there, but decided it wasn't really in the same league. Like, in terms of badness from "best-worst" to "plain old bad", the scale is probably something like FATAL -> deadEarth -> Synnibarr -> uh, SenZar maybe? -> VTNL, with HYBRID floating somewhere in the void between dimensions.
You forget RaHoWa in there. :P
Still though. The game literally instructs the GM to give dialogue like video game shopkeepers. You've gotta admit there's something just kind of charmingly stupid about how the author expects the players to enjoy following the barebones rules to the letter with the mindset that the players wouldn't even dare break the rules as set forth in the player's guide instruction manual.
Heh. You certainly have a point.

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DeadEarth is entertainingly bad simply because it could conceivably be fun to roll characters and try to survive. I'd house-rule natural ability/disability rolling out, but aside from that, it's just bad.

FATAL is abysmal in content and ruleset. Where deadEarth is misogynist, FATAL is subhuman.
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Cannot find 1d4chan article on deadEarth.
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Cannot find 1d4chan article on deadEarth.
Iiiit appears to not exist.
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DeadEarth is entertainingly bad simply because it could conceivably be fun to roll characters and try to survive. I'd house-rule natural ability/disability rolling out, but aside from that, it's just bad.

FATAL is abysmal in content and ruleset. Where deadEarth is misogynist, FATAL is subhuman.
You still have the radman roulette if you gain too much radiation in-game, though.
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FATAL is just dice rolls all the way down, really. I don't think there's much actual game, you just roll dice until your d20s become d1s
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FATAL is just dice rolls all the way down, really. I don't think there's much actual game, you just roll dice until your d20s become d1s
That's because it's super realistic. Super realistic in tabletops seems to mean 'dice rolls for. Fucking. EVERYTHING.

'Why do I need to know how many inches my anus can expand when I'm taking a massive shit!?' 'Because the dice says so. Roll a D20.'
I think you need a d100 for that if it's bad enough that you need a dice roll
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Jee wilikers, I think Highmax is near invulnerable, must have been dunked in the river styx like achilles was.
Just make sure he wears a boot.

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One of my DM's decided to create his own variant of D&D. You roll for everything randomly with character creation and try to survive as long as you can. Our only handicap is the fact that the four arrays to pick from are really good. You get two classes and you randomly get a level in two classes after each level beyond the second and you just continue that as you progress. The only thing you get to pick is alignmnet; the rest is random.

He was planning on doing randomly built dungeons too, as well as other things.

Oh, and he's gonna record it. Its going to be put up and then one of the players and the DM are gonna work together to make drawings of it. If its actually enjoyable to watch, I'll post the links here. We're almost ready to start and I'm terrified...
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just shot him with a balistic arrow, i think he will get stuned from that >.>

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Jee wilikers, I think Highmax is near invulnerable, must have been dunked in the river styx like achilles was.
Just make sure he wears a boot.

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May the dice be with you.
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I'm interested in that experiment, please do post links when they're ready.
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