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[Morrigi]

When they feel the need to explain why their use of "faggot" is a good thing. I've heard the explanation many times. It can get pretty lengthy. Some amount of shit is being given there.

And I guess you don't really need to care what other people think to come up with an explanation like that. Acting like you're doing something good when you're bullshitting on social media is a great way to fluff your ego.

It's anonymous though. Ego has nothing to do with it, and people who do identify themselves with tripcodes without a real reason to get called attention whores and tripfags.

[NullForceOmega]

As a white person who has lived in a 'hood, yes, there are plenty of wannabe fuckheads who use the 'n' word in an attempt to 'sound cool', and even a few who honestly believe that as long as they use it the same way that ghetto-rats use it 'it's okay'.  It is not now, never was, and will never be okay to use the word in any context, and the ghetto-rats are just as bad as the stupid effing wannabes.  So no, 4chins use of 'faggot' is still stupid and offensive, regardless of context (unless they're actually talking about a heavy wood stick).

[Zrk2]

I like to go on /int/ from time to time and casually deride every other nation. My personal favourites are the britbong vs. frenchie threads.

[penguinofhonor]

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[Bauglir]

I'm sorry I did this to the thread. Surely we can all agree that 4chan is not what OP is looking for, and move on.

[Flying Dice]

I think that it's safe to say that what OP is looking for doesn't exist. Online communities: Nice, large, high-quality; pick none.

[nenjin]

4chan's culture has always struck me as juvenile. Doesn't matter what age you are when you read it or post to it. The energy and attitude is all like 15 year old kids. And knowing some 30 year olds who still read 4chan pretty consistently, and the shit they find funny or worth mentioning....has just strengthened my belief in that. It's not the kind of place I'd ever call nice.

Also I hate the thread structure.

[Bauglir]

Bah. Juvenile. It's a strange word to use as an insult. Kids have some pretty good ideas, you know. Ever put chocolate milk on chocolate breakfast cereal? Magnificent.

[nenjin]

Bah. Juvenile. It's a strange word to use as an insult. Kids have some pretty good ideas, you know. Ever put chocolate milk on chocolate breakfast cereal? Magnificent.

I could do with more putting more chocolate on stuff, and less with them reflexively calling each other fag because it's both provocative and a sign of friendship/hate. There are some parts of being a teenager that are just stupid. The fact it's done ironically just keeps it from getting old a little longer. I reconnected with some friends, who were big into 4chan in their day, in the last couple of years and had to readjust to hearing "Do it faggot" as a daily thing. It's even less enjoyable in person.

[Caz]

Small subreddits.

[Kingbodz]

B12 is the only community I can think of that meets the OPs criteria that I care about. All others tend to be full of infighting.

[TheDarkStar]

B12 is the only community I can think of that meets the OPs criteria that I care about. All others tend to be full of infighting.

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It's easy when everyone is Pathos.

[SealyStar]

My view on the 4chan slur thing is the same as my view on white people who say they use the n-word to mean "an ignorant person". You say you're helping, but I just see you trying to rationalize your offensive behavior.

I've never seen people say they're helping (and for that matter, I've never heard that justification for using the n-word) a particular group by changing the definition of slurs. While I completely understand that many people (LGBT or not) could be offended by the casual use of "fag" on the chans, it's not intended to be a homophobic slur and recognizing this intent is a part of joining the community.

While the site(s) at large aren't that great there are some decent boards. I've actually started to get into some new hobbies after getting into the chan communities for them. /tg/ in particular is starting to resuscitate my interest in tabletop gaming, while /v/ makes hilarious musicals and can be a source of hilarious snark about gaming industry bullshit.

All that said, they all fail the "nice" criterion, at least to new folks. They're not really that nasty once you get used to them but there's an adjustment period for sure.

EDIT: I do enjoy Bay12, too, even though I get the feeling a lot of people don't appreciate me. Hell, I don't even play Dwarf Fortress any more (or even LCS) - I stay because the off-topic discussion is interesting.

[penguinofhonor]

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[SealyStar]

To be fair, just as the use of [f-word] as a general insult without homophobic connotations likely owes some of its spread to South Park's biker gang episode, the "[n-word]s versus black people" dichotomy was largely promulgated by Chris Rock. Admittedly, he was only using it as a perceived division among black people, and I'm genuinely curious where people began using it without that racial baggage. I have never observed anyone calling non-black people by the word, no matter how "ignorant" they may be.

I think that might be why I'm more comfortable with 4chan's use of [f-word] than with the "new" definition of [n-word]. I've observed plenty of cases both online and in real life of the former being used without homophobic intentions (admittedly, I've used it that way myself a few times), but everyone I've met considers the latter too deeply racialized to be redeemed in the same way.