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[Tiruin]

NOOOOOOOOOO!

I heard Mayweather won? :O
I'm unsure. We're watching the first rounds here.

[Zrk2]

Dammit. Mayweather won. Pacquiao was impressive at points, but the whole skewed to Mayweather.

[MaximumZero]

Welp, I pretty much nailed that one. Mayweather got ahead on points and defense and coasted when he was ahead. Ugh.

[Zrk2]

Welp, I pretty much nailed that one. Mayweather got ahead on points and defense and coasted when he was ahead. Ugh.

The worst. Horrible way to win.

[DemonOfWrath]

Why is it such a horrible way to win? It clearly works, and it's still a really good display of boxing (from both of them btw) even if it doesn't result in some spectacular KO (and why would he fight differently if it'd both be out of his comfort zone and in Pacquiao's?). And honestly ignoring the points it was still really even at the end, neither of them were flagging or had a clear advantage when it was over. And if it went more rounds, as much as I'd wanted to see Pacquaio win I still think Mayweather would've won (either through points or KO), because his style is both more energy efficient, and is harder to make mistakes with when they're both tired. Just because it isn't flashy and aggressive doesn't mean it isn't a really effective style of fighting.

[JimboM12]

Manny didn't seem to want to take risks and make openings; he only tried in sporadic bursts when he had backed Mayweather into the ropes. If Manny had kept a counter-clockwise rotation around Mayweather and attempted some shots from the outside, his left straight woulda done much more damage. Also, Manny didn't seem as.....composed? Unlike in his usual fights, where he ducks and weaves and attempts snipe shots at the head in a relatively calm manner; in the first couple rounds he was lunging. That's not good unless you have a wide opening and take the attempt at the power shot, but he was doing it for his normal straights, which are better served without the lunging. It kinda felt like Manny's heart wasn't in it, with how few swings he felt like throwing. I know Mayweather's a counter-puncher, but Manny still coulda (and did) use footwork to guide him to the ropes or corner and just start hammering him. Except Manny didn't rotate to prevent Mayweather from escaping. The whole thing just came out wrong to me.

[DemonOfWrath]

I agree to some extent. Pacquiao should've pushed a bit harder, especially in the last few rounds (I was rather surprised that the pace didn't jump up at the end), but a lot of those things are of course much easier said than done. Mayweather has great footwork, so getting around on his outside and trapping him in corners is naturally going to be very difficult as a result (for instance the absolute basics against a southpaw is to rotate clockwise to match them and make sure you're on the outside instead of them), and I felt he was doing a really, really good job at slowing the pace of the fight down.

While it's been a few hours so it's no longer 100% clear in my mind, I do think Pacquiao's approach to the fight was pretty good (I thought it was basically even in actual terms at the end). Just trying to hammer a really good counter-puncher is something (imo) that will get you heavily punished unless you pick the timing of when to do it right (which Manny did), I just think he really needed to up the pace and pressure in the last few rounds, and the couple of moments where he had a big advantage. I think he let Mayweather off a bit too quickly whenever he actually hurt him, as he'd hammer him for a bit while Mayweather bunkered up and then went back immediately to regular pace, instead of upping the pressure and not giving him as easy a time to recover.

I'd probably have to watch it again to really give a good opinion on it though.

[Tiruin]

May 4...2015.
In which the news here is ablaze with people talking about the fight and...its note for posterity, in very formal notes.
That's a ton of insight I'm seeing, national or international here (though there's no doubt that Mayweather won...it's the aftereffect which has a more lasting note).

[MaximumZero]

The whole affair left a very sour taste in my mouth. I'll stick to UFC from now on and hope to not see too many lay'n'pray guys.

[Cheeetar]

I found this article about the boxer's less than stellar reputations leaving me more than a bit unnerved after having been saturated with news about this fight.

[Tiruin]

I found this article about the boxer's less than stellar reputations leaving me more than a bit unnerved after having been saturated with news about this fight.

Err, I'm uncertain in that article. There are references to citations, but...lots of lacking contexts in the conclusions themselves. Just select quotes?

[Cheeetar]

I'll admit to not exactly understanding your confusion about the article- there are some claims it makes that aren't supported by linking to something else, but I have faith that the editing team for that magazine would prevent outright falsehoods being published.

[Sergarr]

I have faith that the editing team for that magazine would prevent outright falsehoods being published.

lol

[Tiruin]

They aren't publishing outright falsehoods (knowing that Pacquiao did say such things), but...I'm confused on the idea in the article. There seems to be the tone of a moral ground? And then following it later on with conclusions about people (in general) caring on violence plus a note on gender gap?
The last paragraphs didn't sit...reasonably with me, given the ideas supporting such paragraphs. It's based on out of context ideas which are (reasonably) presumed from the context.

E: Added an Abbr tag up there

[Cheeetar]

Right. Fair enough. I'm mostly unnerved by the upper paragraphs- that is, these two celebrated sportsmen probably should not be as celebrated or supported as they are.

(Also yes, that is what I meant by that phrase.)