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How to work-around the soapmaking bug DF40.24
« on: May 01, 2015, 11:12:02 am »

The latest (40.24) release is a bit bugged when it comes to making soap. When you make a bucket of Lye at the Ashery, the Dwarves will carry the bucket to a Booze stockpile... and then, instead of POURING it into an empty barrel (to give you a "Lye barrel" and an empty bucket) they will PLACE the Lye bucket into an empty barrel or stone pot, giving you what looks (to the 'k' view) like an empty barrel which contains a Lye-filled bucket.

The problem is that the Soapmaker's Workshop requires tallow or oil plus either a bucket of Lye or a barrel of Lye... a barrel of Lye-buckets is NOT considered a valid ingredient, and the soap-making orders cannot be queued.

My work-around is to mark all the Lye-buckets (but NOT the barrels or pots that contain them) for dumping, wait for them to be dumped and forbidden, then adjust the labors of my soap-making dwarf so that this labor is the ONLY one enabled, get every other dwarf in the Fort busy (dumping stones, for instance), unforbid one of the dumped buckets of Lye, and immediately queue the soap-making orders.

A lot of micro, but it does indeed allow you to make soap.
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Re: How to work-around the soapmaking bug DF40.24
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2015, 11:41:22 am »

Can't you just designate a barreless stockpile for lye only?
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Re: How to work-around the soapmaking bug DF40.24
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2015, 11:42:57 am »

Order lye from the caravan.
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Re: How to work-around the soapmaking bug DF40.24
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2015, 11:52:25 am »

Can you make a barrel of lye buckets a valid ingredient?
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Re: How to work-around the soapmaking bug DF40.24
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2015, 11:56:33 am »

Can't you just designate a barreless stockpile for lye only?

You tell me.

Where is "Lye" in the stockpile menus? I can't find it under the "Food" settings... and that's the stockpile that the Dwarves put it in. It looks hard-coded.
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Re: How to work-around the soapmaking bug DF40.24
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2015, 12:02:18 pm »

Where is "Lye" in the stockpile menus?

Food -> Misc. Liquid (second page) -> lye


Personally, I just exclude lye from all stockpiles. Buckets of lye will then sit in the ashery awaiting soapmaking jobs.
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Re: How to work-around the soapmaking bug DF40.24
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2015, 12:05:31 pm »

There's an issue with soapmaking? I haven't had any trouble at all with making soap.
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Re: How to work-around the soapmaking bug DF40.24
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2015, 12:08:01 pm »

Yes.  Dwarve will put entire buckets of lye inside barrels, buckets and all, resulting in an unusable object.
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Re: How to work-around the soapmaking bug DF40.24
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2015, 12:36:44 pm »

I make sure that lye is turned off in my food stockpile and everything works fine. If I forget about it, then it's still possible to dump the lye bucket and dwarves will remove it from the barrel. There's no need to make a stockpile for lye, as you're not going to stockpile it, dwarves will find it when it's in the workshop.
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Re: How to work-around the soapmaking bug DF40.24
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2015, 02:08:27 pm »

I make sure that lye is turned off in my food stockpile and everything works fine. If I forget about it, then it's still possible to dump the lye bucket and dwarves will remove it from the barrel. There's no need to make a stockpile for lye, as you're not going to stockpile it, dwarves will find it when it's in the workshop.

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And buckets... and buckets in barrels. I guess I broke lye storage sometime back when I messed with the container jobs, since they place the lye bucket in the barrel instead of just the lye. That's fixed now.
Seems Toady read your topic and fixed the bug for the next release.
« Last Edit: May 01, 2015, 02:20:24 pm by TheFlame52 »
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Re: How to work-around the soapmaking bug DF40.24
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2015, 02:28:50 pm »

Barrel-less stockpiles of lye buckets work, yes.

Even better if they're next to your ashery and soap makers, with links. Also if you want you can make a lye/tallow stockpile with no barrels.

Also them dwarves filling barrels with ten lye and then it's unusable  >:(

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Re: How to work-around the soapmaking bug DF40.24
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2015, 08:18:21 pm »

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And buckets... and buckets in barrels. I guess I broke lye storage sometime back when I messed with the container jobs, since they place the lye bucket in the barrel instead of just the lye. That's fixed now.
Seems Toady read your topic and fixed the bug for the next release.

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Re: How to work-around the soapmaking bug DF40.24
« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2015, 05:09:46 pm »

Queue it up once through the manager and then set it to repeat. They'll use it out of the barrel. Just remember to turn it off. (I ended up making 200+ bars of soap before I remembered).
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Re: How to work-around the soapmaking bug DF40.24
« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2015, 03:09:55 pm »

That's weird.  I've noticed the manager can find things the dwarves can't though.  Like 'out of fruit' when they're drowning in fruit, can't add brew-from-fruit at the brewery but it goes from the manager just fine.
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