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[Zanzetkuken The Great]

IC thread

Here's what I have so far, based off an old document I had floating in my google docs drive.  I do need something for the Majiin race and two for the Djinn to have things completed, but, as it stands, what do you think of it and what do you believe should be changed?

Spoiler: Character Sheet (click to show/hide)

General Information
Name:
Gender:
Age:
Race:
Appearance:
Biography:

Statistics
Health:
Ki Strength:
Mystic Power:
Focus:
Soul Purity:

Abilities

Techniques

Spoiler: Races (click to show/hide)

	Frost Demon	Saiyan	Human	Namekian	Majiin	Djinn
Ki Modifier	Better	Better	Normal	Worse	Normal	Worse
Magic Modifier	Worse	Worse	Normal	Normal	Better	Better
Focus Modifier	Better	Worse	Normal	Better	Normal	Better
Health	Worse	Better	Normal	Normal	Worse	Worse

Better = 1.25 multiplier
Normal = 1 multiplier
Worse = .80 multiplier

Racial Abilities
Frost Demon
Environmental Immunity - This race takes no damage from fighting in any environment, such as lack of oxygen, extreme heat or cold, or other hazards.
Extreme Durability - So long as an attack does not result in you taking more than 10 points of damage past 0, then you will still be alive and can be reconstructed.
Transformation: Power States - The Frost Demon race has four forms unlocked at the start.  The first Form takes the base Ki and multiplies it by .5, while multiplying Focus by 2.  The second Form takes the base Ki and multiplies it by .75 and multiplies Focus by 1.33.  The third Form takes the base ki and multiplies it by .9 and multiplies Focus by 1.11.  The Fourth Form takes the base ki and multiplies it by 20, but, untrained, focus is hit with a multiplier of .10.

Saiyan
Zenkai - If you drop below 10% health in combat, your power gets boosted to a point wherein your character can be competitive against the enemy they had fallen against, after they recover.  This ability is only able to increase the power of a Saiyan until they reach the point where they would become a Super Saiyan.
Saiyan Tail - As long as you have your tail, you have a 1.5 times multiplier to your Ki and Magic.  If the tail takes damage equal to 5% of your health, it is removed, and you lose the multiplier.  In addition, when you are under the full moon, you transform into the Great Ape state, where your Ki is multiplied by 10, but you are unable to control the state without training.
Transformation: Super Saiyan - The Super Saiyan state increases the Ki of the Saiyan in the state by 150000000.  The Ascended Super Saiyan State causes this increase to 1.5 as great, with Ultra being 2.5 to the Super Saiyan state, at a cost of 'a multiplier of .5 to focus.  The Mastered Super Saiyan state is an increase to the Super Saiyan state by a factor of 1.75.  The Super Saiyan 2 state is a multiplication of 2 to the bonus provided by the Super Saiyan state.  Past this is the Super Saiyan 3 state, which provides a multiply of 4 to the Super Saiyan 2 boost.

Human
Dragon’s Gift - Being from the planet where the Dragon Balls are most often used, this race has a multiplier of 1.5 to their side of the power equation when attacking or defending.
Dragon’s Wisdom - Being from the planet where the Dragon Balls are most often used, this race has a frightening ability to have techniques created by them to have a key portion of the creation multiplied by a factor of 2, allowing techniques to be created faster or more powerful with shorter charge times.
Indomitable - During times of crisis, the power of the strikes of humans can skyrocket and have them punch above their weight by, if below 10% health, pouring their own life energy into their attacks, for an addition to the Dragon's Gift multiplier equal to how much health is spent.

Namekian
Regeneration - Health regenerates at a rate of 1% per round of combat.
Fusion - Namekians are able to innately be able to fuse together, combining their power together into forming a greatly more powerful being.
Transformation: Giant Namek - Namekians are able to enter a form wherein their size grows massively and their power multiplies by a factor of 7.5 when untrained, or 10 when trained.

Majiin
Reconstitution: If you reach 0% health, but your enemy does not eliminate the individual pieces of your form, you can reconstitute without dying.  It should be noted that yours is not as strong as the original Majiin Buu's.
Absorption: Majiins are temporarily able to absorb one enemy and add their power and techniques to their own.  Unlike the progenitor of the race, Majiin Buu, only one being can be held inside a Majiin, and even then, only for the course of 5 rounds of combat before being released.
Division: An attack that would slice a Majiin into large pieces results in the Majiin able to have control of all pieces that contain over 20% of its mass, though until they reform, the pieces only run off of a portion of the Majiin's full power.

Djinn
Ki Devour - This race has the strange ability to devour Ki, nullifying damage from ranged Ki attacks if they are successful.
Extra-Dimensional Storage - This race has an innate ability to withdraw items from a pocket of space outside of space and time and return them to that dimension at any time.
Transformation: High Djinn - This race has an ability to transform into a state wherein their Ki and Mystic Abilities are combined together to act as their level of strength in both of these tasks.

Spoiler: Technique Creation (click to show/hide)

The time it takes to create a technique is a period of three months, with the training of a technique equal in time to two months.  Created characters start with a total of 5 techniques.

Name: (Name of the technique)
Inventor: (Who created the technique)
Appearance: (What the technique looks like)
Type: (Ki or Mystic?)
Charge Time: (How long the technique needs to charge, in Time Units.  Minimum of 1 time unit.)
Effects: (In terms of damage, it is 1, with an additional per 5 Time Units (if this number is equal to the number of time units per round you have, it is active in the next round). A variety of other effects can be applied, though, such as a temporary boost to a strike.)
Exertion: (How much of your focus this technique uses when it is used.  Exertion is calculated by 1.5 points of exertion per power, with another 1 point per additional effect (ex. Kienzan's ability to automatically cut through things can far outclass it in power, to a point).  Non-damaging would vary, but in terms of constant it would be .5 per round and non-constant would be 1 point per effect.  In addition, there would be an additional .5 per 3 exertion applied to non-mastered techniques (in the case of character creation, it would be techniques 4 and 5.))

Spoiler: Statistics (click to show/hide)

Ki Power Level
Determines damage taken and dealt by Ki attacks.  Basic Ki starts at 300, but Racial Multipliers, techniques, and training can raise or lower this statistic.  Training uses the formula of 1 times the gravity level per hour.

Mystic Affinity
Determines damage taken and dealt by Magic attacks.  Formulas for damage dealt and taken are the same as Ki Power Level’s formulas.  Basic Magic starts at a level of 300, but Racial Multipliers, techniques, and training can raise or lower this statistic.  Training uses the formula of 1 times meditation level/hour.  Meditation level is equal to 1 per 500 points in Mystic Affinity rounded down.

Health
Basic health is 50, but racial multipliers and traits, and various techniques can raise or lower this starting statistic.  When you reach 0% compared to your max health, you die.  Training increases this stat by a rate of 5 per week.

Inner Focus
This stat determines how long you are able to retain your focus in combat to exert attacks.  This increases by a rate of 1 per round of combat.  Reaching zero causes you to become knocked out.  This starts at 25, but can be raised or lowered by various racial traits or techniques.

Spoiler: Combat (click to show/hide)

Percentage of max exertion affects effective power level.
Percentage of max health affects effective power level.
Effective Power Level affects Time units per round.
Time units per round affects attacks per round and accuracy.
Base time units result in 1 attack/round.  There is a gap of 4 time units between attacks.
You can be broken out of charge-ups.
Movement is 1 space per time unit.
Dodging can be declared against one technique at a cost of 2 time units to lower that technique's accuracy upon you.

[Andres]

What's a Frost Demon and what's a Djinn?

EDIT: Wait, with Frost Demons, are you talking about Frieza's Race? Another name I would suggest would be Arcosian. While I'm not that fond of it myself, it's a popular-enough fan name and it avoid confusion since there are actual demons in DBZ. Either that or go the Xenoverse route and have the race be known as Frieza's Race.

Spoiler: Fanboyism. Ignore if you want for game balance. (click to show/hide)

In canon, SS1 multiplies base power by 50, SS2 multiplies that effect by 2 (base power*100) and SS3 multiplies that effect by 4 (base power*400). Also, SS1 puts a strain onto the body until the form is mastered. SS2 and SS3 put even more strain on the body but as far as I know it's not possible to master SS2 and SS3.

EDIT2:

Spoiler: More fanboyism (click to show/hide)

Ascended Super Saiyan multiplies base power by 75 and Ultra Super Saiyan multiplies base power by 125 - making it more powerful than SS2 but decreases the speed of the user by a massive amount.

EDIT3: I don't recall there ever being any magical attacks in DBZ. Sure there was magic but I've never seen it used in combat. Could you refer me to a time when it was so I know what they'd look like? I mean, there was Majin Bu's candy ray but that's it.

Spoiler: Unimportant stuff 3 (click to show/hide)

If I recall correctly, training to become in control while in the Great Ape form wasn't possible. You were either born able or you weren't. Elites and Super-Elites such as Nappa and Vegeta were able to control the form but Commoners such as Kakarot and Bardock weren't. I'm not sure whether this is proscriptive or descriptive, though.

Something you may have missed is that grabbing a Saiyan's tail will absolutely wreck them. It basically puts them to sleep. This weakness can be trained out, though, as shown by Goku and as told by Nappa.

EDIT4: I think the Saiyan tail's power multiplier is too high. Maybe knock it down to 1.1 or 1.2?

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

What's a Frost Demon and what's a Djinn?

Frost Demon is the fan-given name to Frieza's race that I had seen the most of.  Djinn is the race of Mr. Popo.

Spoiler: Fanboyism. Ignore if you want for game balance. (click to show/hide)

In canon, SS1 multiplies base power by 50, SS2 multiplies that effect by 2 (base power*100) and SS3 multiplies that effect by 4 (base power*400). Also, SS1 puts a strain onto the body until the form is mastered. SS2 and SS3 put even more strain on the body but as far as I know it's not possible to master SS2 and SS3.

EDIT2:

Spoiler: More fanboyism (click to show/hide)

Ascended Super Saiyan multiplies base power by 75 and Ultra Super Saiyan multiplies base power by 125 - making it more powerful than SS2 but decreases the speed of the user by a massive amount.

I've seen that there is apparently some debate about whether it is an additive or multiplicative boost to power.  By having the boost multiplied, I wound up having SS3 land at Kid Buu's apparent level of power, whom Goku was able to take on.

Thanks for the numbers of Ascended and Ultra so I can adjust them to the proper point.

Spoiler: Unimportant stuff 3 (click to show/hide)

If I recall correctly, training to become in control while in the Great Ape form wasn't possible. You were either born able or you weren't. Elites and Super-Elites such as Nappa and Vegeta were able to control the form but Commoners such as Kakarot and Bardock weren't. I'm not sure whether this is proscriptive or descriptive, though.

I seem to recall it being stated at least somewhere that it could be trained.

EDIT4: I think the Saiyan tail's power multiplier is too high. Maybe knock it down to 1.1 or 1.2?

I'm going to leave it as is, but reduce the health required to remove it be a tad lower, making it more fragile for its boost.

[Stirk]

I just wanted to comment that it would probably be fun to add an Android~.

Also, why do the Frost Demons have worse health, when their ability is about how durable they are? Just seemed a little strange to me.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

I just wanted to comment that it would probably be fun to add an Android~.

Also, why do the Frost Demons have worse health, when their ability is about how durable they are? Just seemed a little strange to me.

Well, nothing saying you can't have attacks be cybernetic based while using any of the races.  Humans would be the best for this, as any techniques used would have to be custom made, and humans have the advantage there.

I was making it so that, while weaker in combat durability, they are a pain to secure a complete kill.

[Stirk]

I just wanted to comment that it would probably be fun to add an Android~.

Also, why do the Frost Demons have worse health, when their ability is about how durable they are? Just seemed a little strange to me.

Well, nothing saying you can't have attacks be cybernetic based while using any of the races.  Humans would be the best for this, as any techniques used would have to be custom made, and humans have the advantage there.

I was making it so that, while weaker in combat durability, they are a pain to secure a complete kill.

It would be interesting to see how a Cyborg Majiin works  .

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

EDIT3: I don't recall there ever being any magical attacks in DBZ. Sure there was magic but I've never seen it used in combat. Could you refer me to a time when it was so I know what they'd look like? I mean, there was Majin Bu's candy ray but that's it.

(Forgot to address this.)

Mystic attacks are not really canonical, but I included it as it is a way to balance out Ki.

It would be interesting to see how a Cyborg Majiin works  .

True.

[SOLDIER First]

ptw

[Andres]

Djinn is the race of Mr. Popo.

NOOOOO!!!! Um...I think it's best if we -don't- play as Mr. Popo. Please. Besides, there isn't much in-canon to tell us what powers or abilities these "Djinn" have or if Mr. Popo is anything more than an Earthling.

Well, nothing saying you can't have attacks be cybernetic based while using any of the races.  Humans would be the best for this, as any techniques used would have to be custom made, and humans have the advantage there.

Or you could have it so they have infinite ki, only have up to medium-power ki attacks (no final flash or kamehameha), are stronger and more durable on average, but can't gain power by training or fighting - only by buying upgrades.

Mystic attacks are not really canonical, but I included it as it is a way to balance out Ki.

Why not instead have it be physical attacks? Or, you know, just don't balance out ki? Ki, focus, and health seem like the only stats that are needed.

I've seen that there is apparently some debate about whether it is an additive or multiplicative boost to power.  By having the boost multiplied, I wound up having SS3 land at Kid Buu's apparent level of power, whom Goku was able to take on.

There shouldn't be a debate, I think. I got my information of the multipliers from Death Battle and they got their information from the official encyclopaedia.

[Yourmaster]

I'm interested. I must be a cocky saiyan jerk.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Djinn is the race of Mr. Popo.

NOOOOO!!!! Um...I think it's best if we -don't- play as Mr. Popo. Please. Besides, there isn't much in-canon to tell us what powers or abilities these "Djinn" have or if Mr. Popo is anything more than an Earthling.

I think you better disentangle your perception of Mr. Popo from the TFS Dragon Ball Abridged.

Well, nothing saying you can't have attacks be cybernetic based while using any of the races.  Humans would be the best for this, as any techniques used would have to be custom made, and humans have the advantage there.

Or you could have it so they have infinite ki, only have up to medium-power ki attacks (no final flash or kamehameha), are stronger and more durable on average, but can't gain power by training or fighting - only by buying upgrades.

Meh.

Mystic attacks are not really canonical, but I included it as it is a way to balance out Ki.

Why not instead have it be physical attacks? Or, you know, just don't balance out ki? Ki, focus, and health seem like the only stats that are needed.

I point you to the level of dominance that the Saiyans in the original manga.

I've seen that there is apparently some debate about whether it is an additive or multiplicative boost to power.  By having the boost multiplied, I wound up having SS3 land at Kid Buu's apparent level of power, whom Goku was able to take on.

There shouldn't be a debate, I think. I got my information of the multipliers from Death Battle and they got their information from the official encyclopaedia.

Whether Super Saiyan is multiplicative or additive was never explained in canon.  It is all theories based upon power levels given by an outside of canon source.  They likely used multiplicative as it fit with their equation, while additive could not be worked in.

I'm interested. I must be a cocky saiyan jerk.

If you so choose.


I believe I have everything ready.  Feel free to begin creating characters.

[Stirk]

Why not, looks like fun~! I just need a moment to come up with a more complete character concept....

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

General Information
Name: Yusuke Yurei
Gender: Male
Age: 18
Race: Human
Appearance: A young man with short black hair and brown eyes. Generally wears a long trench-coat, because DB needs more trench-coats.
Biography: Not much to say about him, really. He comes from a long line of Martial Artists, using techniques passed down from generation to generation. He spent much of his young life wandering the world, though nothing particularly noteworthy came of it...

Statistics
Health: 50
Ki Strength: 300
Mystic Power: 300
Focus: 25

Abilities
Dragon’s Gift - Being from the planet where the Dragon Balls are most often used, this race has a multiplier of 1.5 to their side of the power equation when attacking or defending.
Dragon’s Wisdom - Being from the planet where the Dragon Balls are most often used, this race has a frightening ability to have techniques created by them to have a key portion of the creation multiplied by a factor of 2, allowing techniques to be created faster or more powerful with shorter charge times.
Indomitable - During times of crisis, the power of the strikes of humans can skyrocket and have them punch above their weight by, if below 10% health, pouring their own life energy into their attacks, for an addition to the Dragon's Gift multiplier equal to how much health is spent.

Techniques

(Do we make these up ourselves? The rules on technique creation are kind of unclear. Ill try for it...)

Name: Spirit Gun
Inventor: Master Yurei
Appearance:
Type: Ki
Charge Time: 1
Effects: 1
Exertion: 1.5


Name: Demon Gun
Inventor: Master Yurei
Appearance:
Type: Mystic
Charge Time: 1
Effects: 1
Exertion: 1.5

Name: Spirit Shotgun
Inventor: Master Yurei
Appearance: The user pulls back his hand making a fist, charging up blue energy as he does so. It is then released, sending out a burst of several small energy orbs.
Type: Ki
Charge Time: 10
Effects: 3
Goes out 2 squares before splitting across adjacent squares along the path, power dividing among the break.  Break only happens 4 times.
Exertion: 5.5

Name: Spirit Gun Mega
Inventor: Master Yurei
Appearance: A more powerful version of the Spirit Gun, releasing a blast larger then the user from the user's outstretched finger.
Type: Ki
Charge Time: 120
Effects: 25
Exertion: 43.75

Name: Demon Gun Mega
Inventor: Master Yurei
Appearance: A more powerful version of the Demon Gun, releasing a concentration of red light from the users finger cutting through its target.
Type: Mystic
Charge Time: 120
Effects: 25
Exertion: 43.75.

_{...I hope nobody minds that I completely stole all my techniques from another anime} 

[Mlamlah]

I'm hesitantly interested as long as we exist in a universe where the most prominent charachters in dragon ball canon don't exist. I'd also prefer we don't get too hung up on the intricacies and debate of "canon".

In which case:

Spoiler: Character Sheet (click to show/hide)

General Information
Name: Nohkan
Gender: Nil
Age: 89
Race: Namekian
Appearance: Tall and broad shouldered, though not particularly muscular. Nohkan takes to wearing simple loose fitting brown clothing and keeping a scimitar at his side.
Biography: A hermit Namekian come to earth to seek solace and contemplation. Nohkan considers himself to be a poet and a philosopher, and prefers the quiet of the wilderness to anything else. He does from time to time, embroil himself in the conflicts of humanity, seeking inspiration from combat and to minimize the damage brought by the conflicts of others. Primarily however, he uses his abilities to avoid conflict altogether.

Statistics
Health: 50
Ki Strength: 240
Mystic Power: 300
Focus: 31.25

Abilities
Regeneration - Health regenerates at a rate of 1% per round of combat.
Fusion - Namekians are able to innately be able to fuse together, combining their power together into forming a greatly more powerful being.
Transformation: Giant Namek - Namekians are able to enter a form wherein their size grows massively and their power multiplies by a factor of 7.5 when untrained, or 10 when trained.

Techniques
-Mind Fog
Inventor:Nohkan
Appearance: It has very little visual indication, besides a glowing of the casters eyes.
Type: Mystic
Charge Time: 3 Time Units
Effects: After eye contact is made between both caster and target, causes the target's mind to become temporarily clouded, much akin to the stupor caused by alcohol consumption.
Exertion: 5

-Firestorm
Inventor:Nohkan
Appearance: The caster lifts his arms in the air and incants, when finished the casted brings his arms down, causing a ball of fire to erupt from the sky and fall towards the target, bursting when touching something solid.
Type: Mystic
Charge Time: 2 to 30 time units.
Effects: Area of effect fire damage upon striking a solid object. 1-7 Damage depending on time spent incanting.
Exertion: 2+1 for every five time units spent incanting.

-Burrow
Inventor: Nohkan
Appearance: User presses hands together and concentrates before striking their hand into the ground, burrowing into the ground straight down.
Type: Ki
Charge Time: 1 Time unit
Effects: User burrows into ground, leaving a pocket of air before them wherever they go, but leaving only loose disturbed earth behind them.
Exertion: 1 for every ten feet burrowed.

-Fist of Wind
Inventor:Nohkan
Appearance: User presses their palms together, and then flings them out to the sides of his body, causing a blast of force to radiate ten feet(plus an additional ten feet for every ten seconds spent charging) from the user in every direction. Can be charged while moving.
Type: Ki
Charge Time: 1-15 Time units
Effects: 1 Damage in all directions +1 for every 5 time units spent with palms pressed together, damage can be avoided if targets allow the blast to carry them out of range.
Exertion: 2+1 for every five time units spent charging.

-Restful Meditation
Inventor: Nohkan
Appearance: The user merely gathers themselves comfortably, and closes their eyes.
Type: Mystic
Charge Time: As long as it takes to clear ones thoughts.
Effects: Speeds Focus Recovery by appropriate (?) amount.

Feel free to suggest changes to techniques. Kinda pulled exertion values straight outa my ass. Not really sure how soul purity works either.

I'm sort of surprised there isn't a stat to reflect physical power, is health meant to communicate that concept?

[Yourmaster]

General Information
Name: Ateyo
Gender: Male
Age:19
Race: Saiyan
Appearance:
Biography: A saiyan born to skilled warriors, Ateyo trained to be able to become better than them. He wanted to become a conqueror. His father taught Ateyo his techniques, and eventually sent him out into the world.

Statistics
Health:62.5
Ki Strength:375
Mystic Power:280
Focus:20
Soul Purity: 30

Abilities
Zenkai - If you drop below 10% health in combat, your power gets boosted to a point wherein your character can be competitive against the enemy they had fallen against, after they recover.  This ability is only able to increase the power of a Saiyan until they reach the point where they would become a Super Saiyan.
Saiyan Tail - As long as you have your tail, you have a 1.5 times multiplier to your Ki and Magic.  If the tail takes damage equal to 5% of your health, it is removed, and you lose the multiplier.  In addition, when you are under the full moon, you transform into the Great Ape state, where your Ki is multiplied by 10, but you are unable to control the state without training.
Transformation: Super Saiyan - The Super Saiyan state increases the Ki of the Saiyan in the state by 150000000.  The Ascended Super Saiyan State causes this increase to 1.5 as great, with Ultra being 2.5 to the Super Saiyan state, at a cost of 'a multiplier of .5 to focus.  The Mastered Super Saiyan state is an increase to the Super Saiyan state by a factor of 1.75.  The Super Saiyan 2 state is a multiplication of 2 to the bonus provided by the Super Saiyan state.  Past this is the Super Saiyan 3 state, which provides a multiply of 4 to the Super Saiyan 2 boost.

Techniques
Name: Palm burst
Inventor: Ateyo
Appearance: A green aura surrounding the hand hand.
Type: ki
Charge time: 10 seconds
Effect: A burst of ki on the hand that explodes and effects anything in the hand. 3 damage
Exertion:2.5

Sky blot
Inventor: Ateyo's father
Appearance:A black beam held on the index and middle finger fired off of them.
Type:Ki
Charge time:60 TU
Effect:13 damage
Extortion:10

 Flight
Common invention
Type:Ki
Charge time:0
Effect:Faster speed
Exertion: .1 per round

Splitter
Ateyo's father
Ki
Charge: 30 TU
Effect : A disk levitated above the Palm and shot for 7 damage
Exertion:5.5

Blade
Ateyo
Ki
Charge time:0
Effect: A blade of Ki that can be created mid punch for 1 extra damage
Exertion: 4.5

[Mlamlah]

Flight
Common invention
Type:Ki
Charge time:0
Effect:Faster speed
Exertion:1 per second flying

1 Per second might be underselling it. That would burn through your focus too quickly to be useful, causing you to go unconscious after twenty seconds of flight.