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Author Topic: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!  (Read 837281 times)

IcyTea31

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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1530 on: June 28, 2015, 12:47:54 pm »

Who said the head needs to go inside the barrel in one piece? A human head can certainly fit inside even a 40mm barrel, with enough force.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1531 on: June 28, 2015, 01:26:39 pm »

Actually, I'd think that the entire drone would be pulled towards you, assuming you weren't dragged towards it. Would make an interesting mechanic, to, say, yank a turret next to you instead of having to approach it turn by turn, or pull in manhacks that are trying to run away.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1532 on: June 28, 2015, 01:31:05 pm »

It woudl be really cool if NPCs could establish visitable bases with functions, and possibly drive vehicles. more dialogue as well would imo make the game more organic and replayable.

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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1533 on: June 28, 2015, 01:44:14 pm »

It woudl be really cool if NPCs could establish visitable bases with functions, and possibly drive vehicles. more dialogue as well would imo make the game more organic and replayable.

Considering their insane reactions to...  everything at the moment, I'd prefer that NPCs don't drive cars until they prioritize self-preservation above all.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1534 on: June 28, 2015, 02:09:10 pm »

Yea I'm really not sure whose self preservation this example had in mind, but I recall an NPC trying to hold me up with a slingshot or something equally absurdly harmless when I was a super bionic lizardman with a combat shotgun with an aux flamethrower.  Self Preservation is not their strong suit.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1535 on: June 28, 2015, 03:22:41 pm »

I think a threat assessment of npcs would need to be in effect, being able to determine if the "enemy" it sees is actually going after them or someone they want to guard, if not then isn't a threat, if the enemy is a threat then find out if it is faster then them self or the guard target, same rule applies. I haven't fully tested the latest npc behavior though to determine just how smart they are, I probably should.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1536 on: June 28, 2015, 03:41:27 pm »

All I know is the best NPC interaction I ever saw was some poor dumb sod empty 4 uzi clips at a squirrel, then get pissed off, throw the gun at the squirrel... brain the squirrel and then stalk off in a huff.

If moments like this are wrong, I won't want to be right.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1537 on: June 28, 2015, 03:46:37 pm »

My favourite NPC interaction was probably when an NPC shot a monster that was about to kill me in my sleep. The gunshot woke me up and I promptly accepted her quest as a thank you.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1538 on: June 28, 2015, 04:12:48 pm »

That is another point, why does every npc have to have a quest for the player to do? Why not the npcs ask things like "hey lets trade our map info" or "do you know where the nearest refugee shelter is?" at which point your allowed to bring up a cursor to point them in a direction. Of course you could just point them the wrong way strait into a zombie horde and possibly see them sometime later with them being angry at you.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1539 on: June 28, 2015, 04:44:02 pm »

Not every NPC has a quest. Some just want to shoot you and steal your loot.

As an answer to your question, all NPC's have to serve a purpose. An NPC just bothering a player and just asking for map directions is a bit pointless.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1540 on: June 28, 2015, 04:46:57 pm »

An NPC bothering the player for map directions while offering to provide additional map data on the other hand is very useful.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1541 on: June 28, 2015, 06:20:07 pm »

Most NPC's after the Cataclysm are going to be fairly pointless. They are there to run slower than you.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1542 on: June 28, 2015, 08:15:14 pm »

For those who want NPC progress

http://smf.cataclysmdda.com/index.php?topic=10417.0

Get hype!
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« Reply #1543 on: June 28, 2015, 08:27:38 pm »

For those who want NPC progress

http://smf.cataclysmdda.com/index.php?topic=10417.0

Get hype!

july 3rd? do you think that's gonna be the date of the next stable as well? this seems like a big enough feature to mandate it
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #1544 on: June 28, 2015, 08:51:00 pm »

There's no such thing as a mandated release.  Releases happen when I have enough time to do them.
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