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Author Topic: WELP! NOOB IN TRUBLE!! Forgotten beast  (Read 4497 times)

KaliumCharlie

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WELP! NOOB IN TRUBLE!! Forgotten beast
« on: March 02, 2015, 09:08:02 pm »

Hi there plump lovers.

I'm having my first underground forgotten beast...

The Forgotten Beast Ebra has come! A towering blob composed of flame. It has a knobby shell nd it unulates rhythmically
I ahve 3 full mele squads with 3 axedwarves, 6 axe Lords, 1 swordsdwarves, 1 swordmaster, 1 macedwarves, 2 mace lords, 3 hammerdwarves, 2 hammer lords. and a squads of noobs (marksman) also all my military have iron armor and weapons. so... what can i do?

I need your advice of how to deal with this thing...
« Last Edit: March 02, 2015, 09:19:59 pm by KaliumCharlie »
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Blastbeard

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Re: WELP! NOOB IN TRUBLE!! Forgotten beast
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2015, 09:33:05 pm »

Just hit it, flame is a weak material and the beast should collapse quickly. Unless I'm reading the description wrong, it doesn't have a special attack. It could be worse, it could have been made of steel.
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Re: WELP! NOOB IN TRUBLE!! Forgotten beast
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2015, 09:35:50 pm »

Being made of flame might give it the ability to spit fireballs, to be certain have it fight an animal and check the reports before sending in the troops.
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Re: WELP! NOOB IN TRUBLE!! Forgotten beast
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2015, 10:14:19 pm »

I did some testing and was reminded of something useful. Creatures that shoot fireballs cannot shoot at a target through fortifications, they need a direct path to the target to fire. It's been like that since 0.34 and is probably on some bug list somewhere. Make of that what you will.

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KaliumCharlie

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Re: WELP! NOOB IN TRUBLE!! Forgotten beast
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2015, 10:22:19 pm »

He isnīt walking to my fortress but he likes to walk on my cave lake... so... i dont know if he is going to hunt some pond grabbers there o just needs some water... you know 'coz his on fire... not sorry for the pun
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Re: WELP! NOOB IN TRUBLE!! Forgotten beast
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2015, 10:24:46 pm »

Do you have marksdwarves? Those might be useful. Because, idk about you, but a collapsing fire beast sounds like a recipe for !!soldiers!! and then *plump soldier roast* (x20)

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Re: WELP! NOOB IN TRUBLE!! Forgotten beast
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2015, 11:15:01 pm »

I did some testing and was reminded of something useful. Creatures that shoot fireballs cannot shoot at a target through fortifications, they need a direct path to the target to fire. It's been like that since 0.34 and is probably on some bug list somewhere. Make of that what you will.

My 4 markdwarf can tell you that they can shoot through fortifications... By the way... they are now dead...
« Last Edit: March 04, 2015, 01:58:23 am by KaliumCharlie »
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Re: WELP! NOOB IN TRUBLE!! Forgotten beast
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2015, 02:26:43 am »

It's just a flame FB and you have largely enough military to solve the problem.

Just order your melee dwarves to charge at it. Considering flame FB's have the habit of exploding, a single weaponsmaster should do the trick.

Or even your recruit squad, just be sure they have shields.
« Last Edit: March 03, 2015, 02:31:23 am by Naryar »
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Re: WELP! NOOB IN TRUBLE!! Forgotten beast
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2015, 02:32:05 am »

My 4 markdwarf can tell you that they can shoot through fortifications... By the way... they are know dead...

mfw my advice kills people:

Implying ranged was the way to go was stupid, I'm stupid.

Melee should still wreck that thing if it's made of FLAME_TEMPLATE. That's what fire men are made of, and you can kill one of those with one hit to the chest. That FB is size 10000000 to the fire man's 70000, so it may take a couple of hits.
It should die as soon as someone lands a hit to center mass, but you might lose a dwarf or two to fireballs. Unless they block it, and perhaps even then, a fireball is either going to melt them outright make them bleed to death. You could minimize losses by waiting to ambush it around a blind corner.
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Re: WELP! NOOB IN TRUBLE!! Forgotten beast
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2015, 09:09:50 am »

For the record, concerning fire attacks of both breath and ball form, shields stop them period. Shields might not block the wild fire, but they block the fire attack. Nothing else will. Custom fireproof suit modded to cover everything? Nope, random body parts catch on fire.

Just recruit some cheesemakers, give them some crappy weapons and a shield, and station them near it, it will die. They might die too, either by not blocking or the resulting explosion, but they're cheesemakers, what other use did they have? Besides, think of how heroic the individual cheesemakers would feel? Perhaps the legend inspires whole legions of cheesemakers as the first line of defense for the entire civ. How can you deny them that? Do it, for the cheesemakers...
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Re: WELP! NOOB IN TRUBLE!! Forgotten beast
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2015, 03:32:36 pm »

For fire breath, use shields. For fireballs, set your dwarves to be in full metal armor, so that the fireball will splatter harmlessly against the fireproof armor. For the fiery explosion that will happen every time one of your dwarves hits it, you're fucked because it's unblockable.

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Re: WELP! NOOB IN TRUBLE!! Forgotten beast
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2015, 07:29:09 pm »

It should still go down with little effort.  I've seen flesh-based FB's die within seconds of encountering a non-weaponmaster hammerdorf.  Flame is a bit trickier... its the glass cannon of FBs.  As other's have said they go down easily, they just tend to take dorf's with them.  Again, full metal+shields (shields can be wood, dragonfire can't even melt a willow shield when its equipped). 
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« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2015, 10:47:59 pm »

they're cheesemakers, what other use did they have?
making...
...cheese?
don't hate me
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If your animals aren't expendable, you could always station a dwarf or two out there?

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Re: WELP! NOOB IN TRUBLE!! Forgotten beast
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2015, 02:05:38 am »

This is what happened ... After making fortifications around the area and put a spring, the game decided to break and threw five hours away ... The new beast that arrived was skinned with a poisonous sting in the end my axe cut off his head... with only one loss
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Re: WELP! NOOB IN TRUBLE!! Forgotten beast
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2015, 10:32:28 am »

they're cheesemakers, what other use did they have?
making...
...cheese?
don't hate me
That's not useful!
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