Apologies for the messiness of this post. This is a messy game.
So, this game is going really, really bad.
I completely agree.
Hi. I'm Jack A T, your new IC (feel free to ask me anything), and I'm a bit annoyed. Why am I a bit annoyed? Because I watched D1 as six players, including one of the ICs, lynched an incredibly obvious (at least to me) townie. I don't get strong reads normally, and I was getting a very strong town read on roo. He was disruptive, arrogant, and pretty incomprehensible, yes, but his actions made pretty much no sense for scum. He was quite obviously used to playing elsewhere (
clear signs of experience, plus significantly different playstyle from the local one), and was quite clearly trying to push everyone out of RVS as soon as possible. It was a poor plan done quite poorly, but that's basically what he did. And then he floundered under pressure. Not answering questions didn't help at all, too.
So, let's do one of the best things that can be done on D2 and look at the pile of information we have. We now know that roo and OrigamiScienceGuy were town, and it's pretty safe to assume that at least one of the scum was on the easy roowagon.
The first vote for roo was
Peradon's for incomprehensibility and refusal to answer questions. Nothing all that unreasonable about this vote.
Next:
hector13, initially as a pressure vote to try to get roo to explain his vote. It grew. I understand how a reasonable player could vote like this. hector13 interacted the most with roo, though, and that generated some content worth examining...
...And then the voting goes downhill.
ggamer votes for roo for a simple reason: roo looks suspicious. How exactly, we only learn in
ggamer's next post: overdefensiveness (Where? He doesn't say.). Also general negative impact whether town or scum. This is ggamer's first game, though, and we haven't had much IC activity, so I find it hard to read much into this.
Next:
origamiscienceguy, now known to be a townie, joins the rather large wagon, going after roo for arrogance and lack of explanations of anything. Not much to say here.
By this point, the idea that roo should be lynched even if town was getting pretty strong, but at least those voting him leaned towards him being scum. Not so with
Nerjin, who
takes no position on roo's townhood or scumhood, and just votes for him because he's damaging town. Not a good vote at all. Uncaring about the alignment of the lynched, and absolutely positionless. Troubling.
Finally,
Cryxis... I don't even know. Aimlessness, but newbie aimlessness.
: Please, when you vote in the future, give your reasons with your votes. Also, please give evidence backing your reasons (quotes, links to posts, etc.).
Cryxis: Most players here aren't good judges of what is scummy and what isn't. That comes with time and experience, and this is a game full of newbies. Some advice:
*Try to figure out what about a player spikes your suspicion. Get as specific as you can. It's often hard, and people still end up with pure gut reads at times, but specificity is useful.
*Look for things that feel off somehow, and ask questions about them. In fact, ask questions in general. They help generate material to find suspicious.
*Be confident. We all screw up, misread people, and such. Confidence, however, puts people under more pressure when you go after them. Besides, reads are to be improved over time.
Also, hector
asked you a question.
I don't have suspects, because not much happened on D1, so... we get no info from the lynch or the NK.
Nobody has any information right now anyway 
We know roo was town, but his accusations were baseless, so it would be silly to pick up on them. Origami was already voting for roo, so nothing to gain there.
Dude, nothing happened on D1 that we can bring into D2.
hector13: This is wrong. It is hard to overemphasize how wrong it is. We had a sizable wagon on a townie. One which almost certainly had scum on it. One which people gave reasons for. One which can be examined, can be analyzed, and such. There is information there. And you're not so inexperienced that this set of statements makes sense from you.
hector13, why do you so dislike the idea of us looking at D1? Furthermore, why even
ask UXLZ for his thoughts on D1 if you're so convinced it's worthless? Do you like asking people to do things you think are worthless for some reason?
Does that mean you were scared other people would actually vote for you? Based on zero evidence?
someone should be insulted.
Not especially. I want to know why you're encouraging other people to vote for me with zero evidence. That's scummy.
What do you think roo was implying about the nature of his vote in that quote?
And everyone I was not sure sure. I was just going with my gut and trying to get reactions. tho those reactions were Lolwut ones.
And how about this quote, from a post
I know you read? Is there a reason you completely ignored this line about reaction testing?
Everyone: I would love to see your thoughts on D1 and the roowagon votes.
Peradon, hector13, ggamer, and cryxis: What led you to believe that roo's behaviour was specifically scum behaviour? Do you think scum would act so disruptively D1?
Nerjin, that was quite the vote D1. You jumped on a big bandwagon without even having an explicit position on roo's alignment. Was that really the best you could do?
Who would you investigate if you were the cop?
Who would you target if you were the jailkeeper (protects from kills, but blocks from doing night actions)?
hector13: Nerjin for both. For cop, he's an experienced player I have a mild read on. For jailkeeper, he's an experienced player (high value scum target if town) and one I have a mild scum read on (possible NKer).
What do you think of the interactions/lack thereof so far?
Peradon: Everyone active hounded down a townie and almost nothing else was done. People failed to examine each other. I think the rest of my post serves as a good answer.
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