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I am religious and believe in free will

71 (27.7%)

I am religious and do not believe in free will

10 (3.9%)

I am not religious and believe in free will

114 (44.5%)

I am not religious and do not believe in free will

61 (23.8%)

Total Members Voted: 251

[Loud Whispers]

It's exactly midnight
ON THIS MIDNIGHT ALL ARE PAGANS

[Frumple]

Improvement it is not. Well, maybe in places with reasonable weather. Not anywhere near the equator. Days getting longer means hell's coming back into full swing.

[Graknorke]

Well near the equator you get two winter solstices a year.

[Loud Whispers]

Improvement it is not. Well, maybe in places with reasonable weather. Not anywhere near the equator. Days getting longer means hell's coming back into full swing.

I remember after one unusually long winter when the Summer arose, I had forgotten what the sun looked like and I had the most pleasant elation realizing I had forgotten about the largest celestial body in our solar system. And then I promptly melted. That awkward transition between freezing cold and blisteringly hot is made all the worse by how you can't dress for either without falling victim to either. At least all the arid and tropical countries only have to prepare for day and night or rain and more rain respectively.

[wierd]

... coming from the man with ocean moderated climate...

try living in a place where the weather can shift 40f or more in the course of a single day.

[Loud Whispers]

... coming from the man with ocean moderated climate...

try living in a place where the weather can shift 40f or more in the course of a single day.

Death is there

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Yeah, well I live on a fucking mountain that can without warning turn into a river. AN ICE RIVER.

[wierd]

how about a semi-desert that can become a raging floodplane without warning?

do seasonal tornadoes count?

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Does aseasonal everything count? I'd swear we were under some kind of ancient Cherokee weather curse from the things I have seen come out of the sky.

This is without counting the day there was a -50 windchill, narrowly beating out Antarctica and Mars.

[origamiscienceguy]

I live in central Texas. It is 82 degrees (fahrenheit) ON CHRISTMAS EVE!!
If previous years are anything to go by, sometime in March, it will sudenly drop to 20 below freezing for a day and return to march-ish temperatures by the next day.

[Helgoland]

Hooray, climate change! I prepared the artichokes in my parents' garden for cold temperatures today before going to Church - they're still growing on Christmas Eve, and that's in Germany!

[Loud Whispers]

I'm artichoking on my food in horror

[Bohandas]

If Christmas, or any of these holidays, is "really" about the winter solstice then why do they celebrate them on he same day in Austrailia?

Checkmate atheists

Seriously though, saying that Christmas is about the winter solstice is like saying that a camel is a type of fish. It has a certain obtuse validity to it; the tetrapoda are ultimately descended from fish, many christmas traditions are descended from holidays that originally celebrated the solstice. But in practice there's really no practical reason to classify a camel as a fish or christmas as a solstice celebration

[origamiscienceguy]

Christmas is originally a celebration of Jesus' birth. It probably wasn't the day of his actual birth, but it is still the day it is celebrated.

[Dozebôm Lolumzalìs]

I don't think Jesus was born from a virgin. Can any (other?*) Christians explain why they say that as well as why it matters?

*I'm not really any label. Family's Catholic, but I doubt many central tenets, and no other religion I've seen seems to fit me. Pretty much just agnostic at times, but there might be a "force of good" in the world (no miracles, etc.).