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I am religious and believe in free will

71 (27.7%)

I am religious and do not believe in free will

10 (3.9%)

I am not religious and believe in free will

114 (44.5%)

I am not religious and do not believe in free will

61 (23.8%)

Total Members Voted: 251

[Arx]

And the jews holy water has marijuana in it.

Citation? I've never heard that and holy water is never mentioned in the Bible.

[That Wolf]

I'd also like to know why the psilocybin is necessary when I can induce a religious experience through a thirty-second ritual referred to as 'prayer'.

Ok its not necessary at all, but it can help if you arnt religious. Religion qnd spirituality are two different things.

Please people dont take what I am saying out of context and I think we should stop nit picking. If you are happy with your spirituality im happy with that, and happy for you.
You dont see me poking holes in your coments.

[mastahcheese]

If you're going to continue this line of conversation, please provide legitimate, unbiased sources. Without them, you may as well be telling us that your WiFi router is spying on you for the government on the moon.

But what if it is, MZ?

WHAT IF IT IS?!?

[MaximumZero]

Poking holes in comments is the whole point of rational inquiry. If you don't provide proof, there's no reason to believe you. And that brings us full circle back to religion.

But what if it is, MZ?
WHAT IF IT IS?!?

Punch it through spacetime. That always works for mine.

[That Wolf]

Im terrible at writing thats why.
And the OP orange wizard set the rules so im following them.
Or id poke holes in all the scriptures like i do in real life.. literally i go into churches and poke holes in the books..

If you're going to continue this line of conversation, please provide legitimate, unbiased sources. Without them, you may as well be telling us that your WiFi router is spying on you for the government on the moon.

But what if it is, MZ?

WHAT IF IT IS?!?

And this comment is so false. The base is obviously on titan.

[Cheeetar]

I don't believe that expressing disbelief of your assertion that all religious thought stems from the very broad category of drugs is against the thread rules, Wolf. As an aside: Do you consider this belief of the history of religion a religious belief of your own?

[MaximumZero]

Or id poke holes in all the scriptures like i do in real life.. literally i go into churches and poke holes in the books..

Mhm. Totes believes you. Vandalism is 3edgy5me.

Look, even if you were to do that, it wouldn't make you clever, it'd just make you a destructive dick. Destroy arguments, not private property. If you can't make your point without pulling stupid stunts, you don't have much of a point.

[That Wolf]

* opens can of worms
I did this in the wrong place didnt I...
No my religious beliefs are that you die, theres no god. There is an after life then you are reborn with no knowledge of past lives. The afterlife has paradoxes living in harmony. And it is a place of everything. Both a "hell" and "heaven" in one place. Obviously its not really a place but thats the best word for it.
It just is.
Like us. We just are.
I dont belive that there is bad or good. But I treat people well like I would be like to be treated.
But its up to you to decide your version of good and bad and how you want your life to go.
Dont be terrified of death is what I say when people ask me "are you religious"
I feel silly saying this

[That Wolf]

Or id poke holes in all the scriptures like i do in real life.. literally i go into churches and poke holes in the books..

Mhm. Totes believes you. Vandalism is 3edgy5me.

Look, even if you were to do that, it wouldn't make you clever, it'd just make you a destructive dick. Destroy arguments, not private property. If you can't make your point without pulling stupid stunts, you don't have much of a point.

Joking is my selfdefence mech.
I felt pressure to describe what I meant so I hid in my mech and shot one of the guns

[UXLZ]

I STILL think my reinterpretation of the Christian God is the best theory. = \

[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

I STILL think my reinterpretation of the Christian God is the best theory. = \

Are we talking about how Christians see it or other people?
I missed it if you posted it .-.

[UXLZ]

No, it was an ephiphany I had about the true nature of God when Arx was discussing some old different translations or something.

The conclusion I essentially came to was that God is/was literally 'human thought/consciousness. Possibly even 'spirituality''.
A lot of the time you can actually use it to make sense of stuff, as well. Though there are probably a lot of contradictions that I don't know about.

For instance, let's take the creation of Adam, supposedly the first human. God is said to have created Adam, and people usually imagine this as literal, like a sculptor chiseling a statue from marble, but what this theory posits is that God did not literally create Adam, but God was what made Adam human. Essentially, the creation of Adam was rather than a story of an architect constructing a building, the story of humans gaining sentience and their 'humanity'.

[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

...
Doesn't that entirely contradict the
'Adam was made in the shape of god'
But of that
I mean god would have to be the one that made him to make him look human/in the image of god rather him becoming part of him to make him in the image of god

I say this because we look uniquely different from anything else on this planet because we look like god
Unless there is an alien race amongst us (they live!) that is subliminally trying to get us to be more human/think less till we are brainless slaves to them

*they live is a great movie but has nothing to do with religion, the whole second chunk can just be ignored for actual discussion use

[Arcvasti]

"In the image of God" could tote mcgoats be interpreted that way. You just have to think diagonally. If God is consciousness, then in the image of consciousness would be a being that was conscious. No real contradictions here.

[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

I mean it kinda fits with the Holy Spirit but there are a few bits in the bible specifically speaking about god and his interactions (see Job? IIRC) which mean he's not mans conciliate as but his own entity