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[ZebioLizard2]

There's also the "An Old Friend" thing which still hasn't been revealed. People seem to be assuming it'll be a lord, probably for the Empire so Boris Toddbringer or Ludwig Schwarzhelm.

Maybe it'll finally be Krell.

[Mech#4]

I think the campaign map tie in thing is already out.

There are mods out there that replace maps with modded ones.

The one where you colour sections of a campaign map image to designate where certain maps are used? That's the one I'm thinking of. People can replace maps currently but only siege maps, I would assume because the game calls for a specific map rather than drawing from a pool.

The colouring map one that CA is implementing will allow general battle maps on the campaign, though modders will have to work together to create map packs since you can't combine the image files.

[Mech#4]

A campaign video has been uploaded showcasing some of the Bretonnia campaign and mechanics. It illustrates how recruiting too many peasant units has a negative effect on the income generated from farm economy buildings and how, if you want a lower but more stable income, you can build industrial buildings.

Another interesting element is that what knights you can recruit into a lords army is affected by what knightly vows they have unlocked. This means that higher level lords are much more valuable because they can take units like Questing Knights into their armies without suffering a large upkeep penalty for these units.

Some of the research topics are neat as well. One shown off in the video is a decree against the Norse tribes that reduces diplomatic relations with them but, along with other bonues, makes your armies immune to snow attrition. Another was a research topic called "Harbourmaster Bribes" that, while increases port income generated, cost money as well as reducing your chivalry rank.

Also on chivalry, sacking a settlement reduces it while razing a settlement increases it. It was also shown that the blessing of the Lady that armies can get from winning battles can happen from any battle but always happens if a won battle was a heroic victory.

One other thing is that traits gained by generals now mention how they were gained. It seems like these traits are also more closely tied to taking certain actions than the seemingly rather random system present at the moment.

[Majestic7]

While all this Bretonnia stuff sounds good, I think it just rubs in how bland Empire is. I hope they show some love there too. Love in depth, not width. Empire doesn't need new stuff, it needs the old stuff to be more interesting.

[Tack]

I like empire.

Not hugely, but that's 'cos I didn't buy grim

[Mech#4]

I believe Creative Assembly have mentioned they have plans to give a do over for the original factions. Some characters, like Belthasar Gelt and Heinrich Kemmler, have abilities which are rather lacking considering some of the more recent lords that have been released.

[Tack]

Kemmler's sword continues to make me happy- at least in PvE

[Teneb]

Kemmler's sword continues to make me happy- at least in PvE

Kemmler is literally the second worst lord in the game. He's only better than Goldfinger because the Lore of Metal is bad unless you are using a magic rebalance mod, while Lore of Vampires is pretty great.

Oh, and patch notes

Spoiler: In case you are at work or whatever (click to show/hide)

BRETONNIA UPDATE Included with the Bretonnia launch is a host of updates, tweaks, fixes and improvements for Total War: WARHAMMER and the Assembly Kit Beta.

HIGHLIGHTS

• The chivalrous knights of Bretonnia have a renewed purpose, with new Lords, units and desire to defend their borders and punish their foes. All players will experience a change in the campaign map, with Bretonnia in opposition. Bretonnia is also available for free as a Free-LC download, visit this page to download them: http://store.steampowered.com/app/534330/
• The powerful vampire lord Isabella has now entered the fray, joining forces with her beloved Vlad in the new Von Carstein faction. Players will find them formidable in opposition, and you can download Isabella to play as for Free from this page: http://store.steampowered.com/app/455041/
• We are deploying our multiplayer drop-hack exploit fix in two stages. This update begins stage 1: we now determine when it happens and analyse the resulting data. Players will receive a message whenever they leave a battle through an unconventional exit. Stage 2 will follow in a future update.
• In line with their lore, the Wood Elves are now more isolationist in character, with periodic bursts of aggression.
• Campaign AI recruitment logic improved.
• Further autoresolver improvements.
• Added loads of Quest Battle maps to the Quick Battle map pool.
• The Assembly kit has been updated with ‘Terry’ a powerful tool used to create custom maps for multiplayer and campaign. We’ve also published a map maker’s best-practice guide for you to make the most of it! Read it here.

ASSEMBLY KIT BETA

• Created ‘Best Practice’ guide for map-making with the TERRY tool, to help modders eliminate terrain quirks and design more polished and functional maps. You can view the guide on our Wiki here.
• Assembly Kit BETA will now also work on Windows 7.
• Battle Camera Mode has been added to the TERRY tool in the Assembly Kit, and enabled by default. This camera mode behaves in the same way as the in-game camera.
• Grass is now being generated properly for tiles in the TERRY tool.
• Camera bounds tool has been removed.

GENERAL

• Total War: WARHAMMER will now exit more cleanly. There were previously rare cases where the process would still be running in the background after quitting the game.
• Fixed a bug causing the game to crash with very large numbers of men in a unit.
• Fixed a memory leak when minimising the game with ALT + TAB in the DX12 BETA.
• Fixed a campaign crash caused by the sound manager.
• Fixed a crash that occurred when the UI Scaling setting was set above 100% on 4K Monitors.
• Redesigned front-end UI to clean up Faction Select screen and clarify the distinction between DLC and Free-LC.

CAMPAIGN

• Improvements to Campaign AI recruitment logic.
• Rebalanced AI recruitment costs
• Improved the HP/unit consistency in the auto-resolver.
• Rule Change: In Campaign, If a faction loses a battle and the only surviving unit is their last general, the general is killed.
• Characters who run out of Action Points / movement will grey out more consistently on the Campaign map.
• Fixed a small memory leak in the Campaign UI.
• Greenskins Rebel armies now use less skirmishers.
• Reduced number of Flagellants recruited by the AI.
• Fixed a blocker in Wurrzag's Squiggly Beast Quest Chain (where Stage 3.1 would not fire).
• Reduced the accuracy of the Campaign AI assessment of player movement extents to improve game balance on lower difficulty settings.
• Dwarfs can now make grudges against Wood Elves in Campaign.
• Improved the use of "He" and "She" gender pronouns throughout the campaign text in English.
• There will now be a "Legendary Lord Available" event popup in multiplayer campaign.
• Added effects to Wurrzag's Fury of Da Prophet skill.
• Recruit Regiments of Renown Button is no longer selectable in the Grand Campaign when there are no RoR Units available for recruitment.
• Hidden HP for enemies will no longer be visible when targeting their army with a hero, then viewing the assault unit panel.
• The effects of the Mystifying Miasma spell overcast is now clearer.
• When a hero embedded within an army levels up during the End Turn cycle, the army's lord no longer triggers a selection VO event

BATTLE

• Improved performance on the Beast Path Battle maps.
• Siege towers/Gates are now working correctly in a Marienberg siege battle.
• The Battle AI can no longer use the Awakening of the Wood spell to target flying units.
• Using the Raise Dead spell during the deployment phase as a defender can no longer raise the zombies far away near the attackers.
• Necromancer no longer loses his Crumbling and Disintegrating abilities when the Corpse Cart (Unholy Lodestone) is added.
• Lord of Undeath ability can no longer be used on settlement walls.
• Fixed instances where the camera could move inside the terrain and objects in the Lost Vault of King Lunn land map.
• Fixed camera clipping issues on the Council of Beasts battle map.
• Glade Lords are no longer counted as heroes in Quick Battle mode.
• Sisters of the Thorn rider animations have been improved.
• The Hammer of Sigmar VFX no longer flicker off during animations, when he is on a mount.
• Improved Khazrak’s attack animations in battle when mounted on his Beast Chariot.
• The Gorebull's Axe will no longer be misaligned to his hand when swapping between some animations in battle.

REALM OF THE WOOD ELVES

• Changed Wood Elves campaign behaviour to be isolationist with occasional bursts of aggression, better reflecting the lore.
• Added 2 more defensive siege battle maps for the Wood Elves faction, also available in Custom Battle Mode.
• Fixed a very rare crash in the End Turn Cycle in the Season of Revelations campaign in Realm of the Wood Elves.
• Re-balanced the ‘Sword of Death 2’ Quest Battle in Realm of the Wood Elves DLC.
• Improved the supporting AI battle tactics in the ‘Silver Spire’ Quest Battle in Realm of the Wood Elves.
• Orion, The King In The Woods, has issued a proclamation throughout Athel loren denying his resemblance to Mel Gibson.
• Selecting the Provincial bonus on the Chapter 4 bonus objective, ‘Foresting Growth’, now moves the camera to assist the player to find the desired province’s location.
• The ‘To Steed or Not to Steed…’ mission will now give the objectives on the Mission Failed message to show why it failed.
• The Red Duke's El Syf ability will no longer work on Treemen (only Lords and Heroes).
• Fixed Orion's ‘Cloak of Isha stage 2’ Quest Battle chain in Realm of the Wood Elves.
• Morghur will no longer request peace with Wood Elves in the Season of Revelations campaign.

CALL OF THE BEASTMEN

• AI Beastmen factions can now correctly recruit the Lore of Shadows Bray Shaman.
• Added a Skills Tree icon for the Gorebull’s Foe-Seeker ability.
• Reduced Morghur’s resilience in combat by decreasing his magic resistance to 20%.

USABILITY

• Post-battle stats are now available for second/ally enemies on the post-battle loading screens.
• More replay desynchronizations have been fixed.
• The Red Duke can no longer gain titles after his name.
• Equipping the Bray Shaman (Lore of Shadows) hero with a Razorgor Chariot will no longer put a Death Magic icon on its unit card. Vala-Azril-Ungol Achievement will now unlock as expected.
• Unbinding ability on summoned units now has a unique icon, in the unit details panel during battles.

GENERAL BALANCING

• Swarm of Flies ability added to Vampire characters when mounted on Zombie Dragons.
• Arachnarok Queen spiderling summons are now less powerful.
• Reduced the cost-effectiveness of the Raise Dead summon spell.
• The Life Bloom spell has been reduced from 10 HP/second for 10 seconds to 4 HP when it triggers

UNIT BALANCING
GREENSKINS

• Trolls + 10 Armour + 37 HP (Per entity
• Savage Orcs + 10% Physical Resistance + 3 Charge Bonus + 2 Melee Defence
• Savage Orc Big ‘Uns + 10% Physical Resistance + 3 Charge Bonus + 2 Melee Defence
• Savage Orc Boar Boyz + 10% Physical Resistance + 4 Charge Bonus + 2 Melee Defence
• Savage Orc Boar Boy Big Uns + 10% Physical Resistance + 4 Charge Bonus + 2 Melee Defence
• Savage Orc Arrer Boyz + 10% Physical Resistance
• Forest Goblin Spider Riders Archers/Deff Kreepers + 1 AP Missile Damage - 1 Missile Damage - 50 Cost
• Goblin Wolf Chariots/Teef Robbers + 1 projectiles per shot

EMPIRE

• Karl Franz (Deathclaw) + 125 Multiplayer Cost
• Karl Franz (All Variants) + 99 Multiplayer Cost
• Amber Wizard (Warhorse) + 18 Charge Bonus
• Amber Wizard (Barded Warhorse) + 18 Charge Bonus
• Amber Wizard (Griffon) - 30 Charge Bonus
• Knights of the Blazing Sun + 100 Cost
• Reiksguard/Zintler’s Reiksguard - 100 Cost

DWARFS

• Organ Gun + 10 AP Missile Damage + 5 Missile Damage
• Flame Cannon - 150 detonation force
• Gyrobomber + 1 projectile spread - 3 seconds reload time
• Irondrakes + 342 HP
• Gob-Lobber + 100 Cost

WARRIORS OF CHAOS

• Marauder Horsemen (Throwing Axes) - 50 Cost
• Chosen (Halberds) + 5 Weapon Damage + 1 AP Weapon Damage
• Archaon the Everchosen (Dorgar) + 86HP
• Archaon the Everchosen + 20 Armour
• Chaos Trolls + 37 HP Per entity
• Chaos Trolls (Armoured) + 10 Armour + 37 HP Per entity

BEASTMEN

• Beastlord (Chariot) - 400 Cost + 15 Charge Bonus + 1 collision Attacks Max Targets - 0.2 Seconds Melee Attack Interval + 246 HP
• Beastlord Increased Entity Size - 250 Cost - 30 Armour + 15 Charge Bonus + 10 Weapon Damage + 10 Armour Piercing Weapon Damage
• Khazrak Added Vanguard Deployment + 10 Charge Bonus - 150 Cost - 20 Armour - 0.2 Seconds Melee Attack Interval
• Khazrak (Chariot) - 200 Cost + 15 Charge Bonus + 1 collision Attacks Max Targets
• Bray Shaman + 35 Weapon Strength + 35 Armour-Piercing Weapon Strength - 100 Multiplayer Cost
• Bray-Shaman (Razorgor Chariot) - 50 Multiplayer Cost
• Malagor the Dark Omen + 40 Weapon Strength + 35 Armour-Piercing Weapon Strength + 10 Charge Bonus
• Bestigor Increased Entity Size + 6 Speed + 4 Charge Speed + 2 Weapon Damage + 2 Charge Bonus
• Gor Herd (Dual Weapons) + 1 AP Weapon Damage + 5 Weapon Damage + 4 Charge Bonus
• Cygor + 750 HP
• Ungor Spearmen Herd (Shields) + 5 Leadership - 3 Charge Bonus
• Ungor (All units) + 30 Mass
• Ungor Herd + 2 Weapon Damage
• Centigors (All) Add hide in woods

VAMPIRE COUNTS

• Hexwraiths + 10 Charge Bonus
• Helman Ghorst (All Variants) - 200 Multiplayer Cost
• Helman Ghorst (Corpse Cart) + 150 Multiplayer Cost
• Sternsmen + 100 cost
• Mannfred von Carstein (Zombie Dragon) + 75 cost
• Vlad von Carstein + 200 cost (multiplayer) + 500 cost (campaign)
• Vampire Lord (Zombie Dragon) + 75 cost
• Red Duke (Zombie Dragon) + 75 cost
• Mortis Engine/Claw of Nagash - 788 HP
• Terrorgheist + 5 Leadership + 1 max splash attacks
• Varghulf + 5 Leadership
• Black Coach + 20 Weapon Strength + 20 Armour-Piercing Weapon Strength

WOOD ELVES

• Eternal Guard + 25 Cost
• Eternal Guard (Shields) + 50 Cost
• Wildwood Rangers - 5 AP Weapon Damage
• Glade Guard (All) - 10m Range
• Deepwood Scouts/Deepwood Scouts w/ Swift Shiver Shards + 15 Entities + 2 Ammo + 10m Range - 2 AP Missile Damage - 2 Missile Damage
• Waywatchers + 2 Ammo Increased Marksmanship + 8 Speed

ABILITY CHANGES

• Armour effect values for spells and abilities changed from 15/30 to 30/60. Also increased duration for these abilities.
• Refreshed ability costs, durations and recharge times.
• Spell power costs tweaked to better match strength.
• 45m radius reduced to 40m radius, 60m radius reduced to 55m radius.
• Slightly increased likelihood of magic missiles hitting their target.
• Reduced movement speed for upgraded vortex spells with extended duration by 25%.
• Balancing pass on passives to better match strength with cost.
• Lore of the Wild and Lore of Beasts recharge times made consistent with other Lores of Magic.
• Flock of Doom has been made less effective.
• Fixed consistency issues with initial recharge not always being applied for abilities without a recharge condition.

MP ABILITIES – CHARACTER UPGRADES

• Fixed Empire Captain on Barded Warhorse getting free abilities and no items.
• Frenzy, Primal Fury, Lady’s Blessing, Regeneration, Vigour Mortis, Unholy Lodestone, Balefire, Bloodroar, Swarm of Flies turned into always selected innate abilities and ability costs added to unit cost.

QUEST BATTLE MAP POOL ADDITIONS

• Added the following to the Quick Battle Map pool: Altdorf Outskirts, Barrier Idols, Battle of the Cairns, Bloodpine Woods, Broken Leg Gully, Death Pass, Devastation of Ostermark, Excavation Site, High Pass, Kelp and Koldust, Lost Vault of King Lunn, Mouth of the Pass, Mushroom Cave, The Ashenhall, The Lost Idol, The Silver Spire, Void of Hel Fenn, Warpstone Mine.

[Tack]

I did notice that Malagor dag abu had weirdly high winds stats.

[Teneb]

I hate lists in this forum. They always break in some way.

EDIT: I am not going to transcribe this, but it shows changes ability by ability. Our boy Gelt is now maybe useful as a buffer/debuffer.

[Mech#4]

One thing with the abilities was it mentions that those tied to the Black Coach for the Vampire Counts are now passives that activate as the coach stays in combat longer. They also stack with each other though they have been reduced in strength to go along with this change.


"Reduced the accuracy of the Campaign AI assessment of player movement extents to improve game balance on lower difficulty settings."
This is neat. It should mean less time spent chasing enemy armies around.


One thing I noted in their best practices topic for the battle map editor. One of the forest images looks like a jungle forest to me. Does that exist in the game currently, or is it take from Attila or something?

[Tack]

So kemmler gets temporary ethereality...
Cute

[umiman]

After listening to King Leon Leonceur's speech, I'm pretty frigging sure he has the same voice actor as the guy who did Napoleon.

[Hetairos]

• Improvements to Campaign AI recruitment logic.
• Fixed a bug causing the game to crash with very large numbers of men in a unit.
• Changed Wood Elves campaign behaviour to be isolationist with occasional bursts of aggression, better reflecting the lore.

Plus changes to magic. Update's looking pretty great.

• Orion, The King In The Woods, has issued a proclamation throughout Athel loren denying his resemblance to Mel Gibson.

ayy

[umiman]

So I'm looking through the unit stats of the new Bretonnian stuff and I'm pretty frigging impressed.

I mean, their infantry is pretty much "meh" but their cavalry now really, really live up to their name.

In the past I didn't give a bleeding crap about Bretonnian cavalry at all. The thing I feared most about them was their trebuchets.

But now.

The Grail Guardians are actually STRONGER than Blood Knights. Christ I do not want to fight that.

Royal Hippogriph Knights are basically flying Demigryph Knights.

Royal Pegasus Knights are flying Grail Knights.

Not to mention the buffs to their regular Grail Knights and all their other cavalry.

I do not want to fight them. They will win every single cavalry engagement.

This of course, doesn't even touch upon the OPness that is the Green Knight. See, normally Ethereal units have really crappy stats to make up for the fact that they're really hard to kill and don't have movement penalties because of terrain. This isn't the case for the Green Knight. Even with Ethereal he still has better base stats than practically every single other unit in the game. That's nuts. Oh, and he regenerates hp. Oh, and he gets +34 melee attack and +44% weapon damage permanently for some reason. Oh, and 20% physical resistance. Oh, and he can't break.

What the fuck is that shit. Easily the best unit in the entire game. Nothing can fight him.