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Author Topic: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée  (Read 1587262 times)

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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #9945 on: January 20, 2016, 07:15:42 pm »

Why would you EVER name your architectural style brutalism?
It's from the French for "raw concrete" (bru) apparently. The word was originally French, too, but we nicked it(like most things).
A style based (IIRC) around raw expression, and of the concept of houses versus homes.

The original handful of Brutalist developments were groundbreaking and are still pretty damn nice today. The poorly-planned mass-produced 30-storey blocks that sprouted like mushrooms across the UK are not nice.
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #9946 on: January 20, 2016, 08:21:38 pm »

It need not be a black and white issue there.  The potential exists for natural market forces to have been eroding the profitability of quality mass transit, with a later upshot in opportunistic, and somewhat conspiratorial automotive capitalists seeking to topple the old status quo and corner the market lending the dieing industry a "helping hand" to get into the grave faster.

EG, it is possible for both to be true.
This is what I was saying. They were dying because of market forces before the conspiracy began, but anyone who says that the market is a neutral disinterested agent not influenced by actors within or around it is a liar or a fool. The automobile industry was already killing efficient public transit by aggressively marketing widespread use of automobiles, among other things, for overuse in places where they obstructed and damaged infrastructure which was required and maintained by parties other than them.

It's not as if the auto industry in the U.S. hasn't been up to other shady shit. Back in the '70s multiple people developed carburetors that allowed cars to get in excess of 100 mpg, the major auto manufacturers intentionally blocked development. That's just the really impressive stuff, inventors have been trying to get high-efficiency ICE autos out on the market since the '50s. In the '40s and '50s the Fish Carburetor company manufactured in excess of 100,000 carburetors that had markedly better horsepower and mileage than industry standard, and they were driven out of business (among other ways) with stalling tactics to block sales that included RtSing their mailed parts.

There's been tons of journalistic work and research done over the years (never mind actual statements from industry execs) that indicate that the U.S. automobile industry continues to produce vehicles which are obscenely inefficient while blocking efforts to develop anything better. Hey, can't have people buying less gasoline, right?
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #9947 on: January 20, 2016, 08:49:07 pm »

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Any sources on that research, if you don't mind my asking? This is a totally plausible thing, and would be completely unsurprising - I'd just kinda like to see the evidence so that I can reassure myself before repeating the claim.
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #9948 on: January 20, 2016, 08:52:38 pm »

Back in the '70s multiple people developed carburetors that allowed cars to get in excess of 100 mpg, the major auto manufacturers intentionally blocked development.

I didn't know that GM had a financial stake in oil.  Please, tell me more.  In detail.
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #9949 on: January 20, 2016, 09:00:43 pm »

It would explain why more and more cars are produced oversees.
That and Japan being based

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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #9950 on: January 20, 2016, 09:17:01 pm »

Back in the '70s multiple people developed carburetors that allowed cars to get in excess of 100 mpg, the major auto manufacturers intentionally blocked development.

I didn't know that GM had a financial stake in oil.  Please, tell me more.  In detail.

It could just be because they didn't want to be outcompeted by a clearly superior product that would be patented and therefore out of their reach or quite a bit more expensive to buy than it is to produce their now inferior model that won't be selling nearly as well anyway.

I'm wondering about sources too, to be perfectly clear, but selling more gas isn't the only possible motive for doing that.
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #9951 on: January 20, 2016, 09:19:00 pm »

Why did Antartica export 10 million dollars of cars?

It could just be because they didn't want to be outcompeted by a clearly superior product that would be patented and therefore out of their reach or quite a bit more expensive to buy than it is to produce their now inferior model that won't be selling nearly as well anyway.

I'm wondering about sources too, to be perfectly clear, but selling more gas isn't the only possible motive for doing that.

So three different companies all ignored an AWESOME technology and just kinda hoped the other two wouldn't use it (not to mention dozens of foreigners)?  I know that firms aren't always perfectly rational agents but come on.
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #9952 on: January 20, 2016, 09:25:31 pm »

Illuminati confirmed.
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #9953 on: January 20, 2016, 09:29:52 pm »

That's what they want you to think.  Fight the power.
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #9954 on: January 20, 2016, 09:46:07 pm »

Mmmmhm. And it's a technology that a total of zero counties use for military applications, despite movement of fuel being a major limitation in any sort of mechanized warfare.
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #9955 on: January 20, 2016, 09:47:28 pm »

Mmmmhm. And it's a technology that a total of zero counties use for military applications, despite movement of fuel being a major limitation in any sort of mechanized warfare.

Well if we didn't need to fight for oil, the military wouldn't have anything to keep them busy.
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« Reply #9956 on: January 20, 2016, 10:04:30 pm »

And obviously the people who we're fighting against for the oil have no desire to burn less of it than they need to, while the Ruskies obviously already have the technology, if the billion mpg claims on the t90 are anything to go by. It all makes sense, then.
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« Reply #9957 on: January 20, 2016, 10:07:41 pm »

Urban sprawl promotes liberty??
Sorry, you probably have a point but this is hard to process.  Sprawl looks awful and makes people drive 30-60 minutes each way to work in many places.

Bit late, but I find this comment pretty amusing. I moved from a more densely pack city to a more "sprawled city". I can now travel about 4x the distance I used to in about half the time. Also the idea that concrete jungle is some how prettier then sprawl? I guess either looks good or ugly depending on how you build.
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #9958 on: January 20, 2016, 10:09:36 pm »

Psssh, silly american.  The T90 doesn't run on oil, it runs on superior engineering.  The oil is just there to lightly coat the outside hull and make it glisten.
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Re: Ted Cruz's Adult Coloring Book and Chill 2016 Megathread
« Reply #9959 on: January 20, 2016, 10:23:11 pm »

I thought that it was to make them burn better. My bad
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