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Author Topic: Dominions 4 Round 14: Wrapped up  (Read 34274 times)

Delta Foxtrot

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Re: Dominions 4 Round 14: Restarted for Greater Justice
« Reply #135 on: January 15, 2015, 10:02:56 pm »

We could just AI Lanka, with the knowledge that it might very well imbalance the game as the first guy neighbouring them will have an edge if they grab their cap early.

I worry finding a sub this early might be bit of a hassle (why sub to super early game as you can't even design your own pretender?), so maybe we should just restart with one less player (again)?

I don't really care, restart or AI, but I feel those are the most realistic options.

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@dennislp3:
What exactly was your issue?
Based on "game refuses to recognize the save when I make it." I'm assuming you made a folder in dominions4\savedgames, but the save doesn't show up in-game, correct? Did you have any spaces in the folder name? I believe that's something that would cause it not to work.
For example my save folder for this game is called Bay12_414 and it works, but if I called it Bay12 414 it wouldn't work.
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Akhier the Dragon hearted

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Re: Dominions 4 Round 14: Restarted for Greater Justice
« Reply #136 on: January 15, 2015, 10:06:35 pm »

   Hmm, having thought about the option of AI I must admit I play MP to get away from the AI. A sub might be hard and honestly we are only a few turns in so we can restart relatively easily still but I leave this up to all of you.
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Re: Dominions 4 Round 14: Restarted for Greater Justice
« Reply #137 on: January 15, 2015, 10:07:24 pm »

Near doubleposting for visibility:

@dennislp3:
What exactly was your issue?
Based on "game refuses to recognize the save when I make it." I'm assuming you made a folder in dominions4\savedgames, but the save doesn't show up in-game, correct? Did you have any spaces in the folder name? I believe that's something that would cause it not to work.
For example my save folder for this game is called Bay12_414 and it works, but if I called it Bay12 414 it wouldn't work.
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Re: Dominions 4 Round 14: Restarted for Greater Justice
« Reply #138 on: January 15, 2015, 10:50:29 pm »

Yes it wasn't recognizing it even without spaces and all manner of crap I tried...no idea what the deal is
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Re: Dominions 4 Round 14: Restarted for Greater Justice
« Reply #139 on: January 16, 2015, 12:46:20 am »

Well, I don't mind ether way. Although at this point I'm starting to get a bit worried, didn't someone say that they had to go at the end of may? With all of these delays it doesn't seem so unlikely that the game will last until then.

Well, whatever happens, I am sure it will be fine.
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Delta Foxtrot

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Re: Dominions 4 Round 14: Restarted for Greater Justice
« Reply #140 on: January 16, 2015, 12:57:55 am »

That was me, but that's still +4 months away. I expect this game to take about 3 months, assuming I don't die off early.
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Re: Dominions 4 Round 14: Restarted for Greater Justice
« Reply #141 on: January 16, 2015, 01:27:50 am »

I'm ok with either AI Lanka or restarting (but that may be because one of my 2 neighbouring sea province is a too greatly protected throne), if we can't get dennislp3's game to work in he next days.
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Re: Dominions 4 Round 14: Restarted for Greater Justice
« Reply #142 on: January 16, 2015, 09:22:10 am »

Yes it wasn't recognizing it even without spaces and all manner of crap I tried...no idea what the deal is

Whether or not you have the map or any mods should not matter. If you don't have the map and you try to load the save, the game just crashes IIRC. But you can still see and try to load the save.

My gut feeling is that Dom4 doesn't recognize that as your save directory. Basic troubleshooting for this:

  • Start Dom4. Go to "Game Tools," and click the "Open User Data Directory" option on the very bottom. Open the "savedgames" folder.
  • Confirm that the .trn file from Llamaserver is in a subfolder with basic characters and no spaces (as noted above). If it's not there, you've found your problem. Move the save and map to this Dom4 directory.

If that checks out fine but you still can't load the game, this is what I'd do next:

  • Create a new game. Doesn't matter what you call it, although I'm fond of descriptive names such as "a", "b", and "test". Start it up, save and exit. Repeat Step 1 above.
  • Make sure there's a subfolder for the game you just created.
  • Copy that folder and name the new folder something truly unique like "a2". See if that shows up in the "Load Game" menu.

If something goes wrong with that second set of steps, back up your saves and maps and run a full uninstall and re-install of Dom4. It's possible that something's not communicating right, like a registry entry got wiped or something.

If all of that works fine, then it's almost certainly a problem with the .trn file. There's a rare bug where Llamaserver may send out a corrupt .trn file. IIRC to fix a corrupted file, the admin would need to change Lanka's e-mail address to a 3rd party or himself, trigger Llamaserver to resend the turns, then whoever got the .trn file forwards it to you. And obviously change the e-mail back to you afterwards.

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Re: Dominions 4 Round 14: Restarted for Greater Justice
« Reply #143 on: January 16, 2015, 10:56:34 am »

That was me, but that's still +4 months away. I expect this game to take about 3 months, assuming I don't die off early.

Ah, that's good. I'm not sure how long multiplayer games go at all, I figured with a turn every two days that long would give us 70ish turns, which seemed like it could go ether way.
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Re: Dominions 4 Round 14: Restarted for Greater Justice
« Reply #144 on: January 16, 2015, 11:49:36 am »

Oh, dennislp3, have you tried redownloading the turn file? Something may have happened when you first downloaded it.
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Re: Dominions 4 Round 14: Restarted for Greater Justice
« Reply #145 on: January 16, 2015, 01:19:47 pm »

I will try that when I get home
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Re: Dominions 4 Round 14: Restarted for Greater Justice
« Reply #146 on: January 16, 2015, 08:42:08 pm »

Ah, that's good. I'm not sure how long multiplayer games go at all, I figured with a turn every two days that long would give us 70ish turns, which seemed like it could go ether way.

401 lasted about three months/54 turns for me, but I was killed off and Christmas was in the middle so it dragged a bit there. I think the game actually ended up lasting +7 months, but it had both a larger number of players, worse map and in hindsight questionable throne settings. Somewhat atypical of dom4 I believe.

402 also lasted 7 months/98 turns, I can't remember what else there was, some patching related shenanigans? It also had a bit more players than this one and a fairly high throne requirement.

408 lasted about 2 months/49 turns, it had a bit fewer players and required thrones than this one does.

Most of my games outside Bay12 have been aiming towards 408 time scale and I've been fairly happy with those.
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Re: Dominions 4 Round 14: Restarted for Greater Justice
« Reply #147 on: January 17, 2015, 07:38:40 pm »

So what's the verdict?
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Akhier the Dragon hearted

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Re: Dominions 4 Round 14: Restarted for Greater Justice
« Reply #148 on: January 17, 2015, 07:44:37 pm »

   It looks like dennislp3 won't be able to continue as he hasn't sent a turn in and not posted. We are only 4 turns in so we can restart easily or just set him to AI. My personal vote is restart as I play MP to get away from the AI's.
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Re: Dominions 4 Round 14: Restarted for Greater Justice
« Reply #149 on: January 17, 2015, 07:48:00 pm »

I'm fine with a restart. Seems pointless to have to play a whole game with AI just to save four turns.
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