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[Arx]

the first source says there are now laws in some places to sentence women equally to men, that is what equal sentencing is.

That is bad because it does not take a number of factors into account, since you are just generalizing the crime.

What I'm getting from this is that women are being treated equally to men, and that's bad. I hope you misphrased that?

[Reelya]

There have been a few screwed-up cases where a woman got longer jailed for neglect than her bf because she "let" him abuse her kids. But it's literally a handful, and definitely not "always". Anecdotes don't prove a trend or general case.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/alexcampbell/this-battered-woman-wants-to-get-out-of-prison#.fq9V4PpBP

Hall is one of 28 mothers in 11 states who a recent BuzzFeed News investigation found were sentenced to 10 years or more for failing to protect their children.

Hall is one of three cases BuzzFeed News found in which the mother got a longer sentence than the man who actually abused the child.

[Caz]

retaliation against abusers punished harder

http://www.solidarity-us.org/site/node/729

Meh, I wouldn't trust that source. It links a law journal that seems to be run by SJWs, and the 2007 report it seems to be based upon is nowhere to be found.

[smeeprocket]

retaliation against abusers punished harder

http://www.solidarity-us.org/site/node/729

Meh, I wouldn't trust that source. It links a law journal that seems to be run by SJWs, and the 2007 report it seems to be based upon is nowhere to be found.

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Using derogatory terms is not helpful to your argument. I shouldn't have to keep asking that people stop using slurs.

[scrdest]

That does not sound like a troll to me. It just sounds like someone you strongly disagree with.

Asking ridiculous questions is trolling. It has nothing to do with disagreeing with him. He's asking the questions to be a problem, not debate the issue.

What. Trolling is a set of actions aiming to deliberately anger another person. Asking questions about real or perceived holes in your line of argumentation, regardless of your emotional response to it, is not trolling.

you're telling me that using goblins and hobbits as an example of violence in comparison to women is anything but trolling? right.

No, I am saying that in the context of the discussion following him using that example, the question he made - to which you were objecting - was reasonable as a counterargument.

On an unrelated note, please use the Modify button, making double-posts is generally frowned upon on forums.

[Caz]

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Using derogatory terms is not helpful to your argument. I shouldn't have to keep asking that people stop using slurs.

What?

[Redzephyr01]

the first source says there are now laws in some places to sentence women equally to men, that is what equal sentencing is.

That is bad

Are you kidding? Are you seriously telling me that you think that women should get shorter prison sentences than men for committing the same crimes, just for being women? How is that not sexist?

[scrdest]

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Using derogatory terms is not helpful to your argument. I shouldn't have to keep asking that people stop using slurs.

What?

Smeep considers SJW to be a derogatory term, she mentioned it a couple posts back. Like yesterday or so.

[smeeprocket]

the first source says there are now laws in some places to sentence women equally to men, that is what equal sentencing is.

That is bad because it does not take a number of factors into account, since you are just generalizing the crime.

What I'm getting from this is that women are being treated equally to men, and that's bad. I hope you misphrased that?

I'm saying that each case is different, so trying to use an average sentence for men convicted of a crime to bump up the time for a woman doesn't really work very well. It just puts the woman in jail for longer regardless of any circumstances involved in the crime.

Personally, I think, in most of those cases the problem is that the men are going away for too long, we love to put people in jail, with zero rehabilitation attempts.

[smeeprocket]

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Using derogatory terms is not helpful to your argument. I shouldn't have to keep asking that people stop using slurs.

What?

Smeep considers SJW to be a derogatory term, she mentioned it a couple posts back. Like yesterday or so.

most feminists will consider it a derogatory term, much like feminazi is.

and to be honest, it was definitely being used in a pejorative sense.

[Caz]

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Using derogatory terms is not helpful to your argument. I shouldn't have to keep asking that people stop using slurs.

What?

Smeep considers SJW to be a derogatory term, she mentioned it a couple posts back. Like yesterday or so.

most feminists will consider it a derogatory term, much like feminazi is.

and to be honest, it was definitely being used in a pejorative sense.

It's a descriptive term. Maybe a negative one, but I'd hardly call it a 'slur'.

[Urist Tilaturist]

Don't use the letters SJW on this thread, it only makes things worse. Obviously anything invoking Godwin's law is poor argument.

A problem with equal sentencing is that pregnant women will end up giving birth in prison if they are incarcerated, which means the baby will not see its mother. The base sentence for a male and female offender should be the same, but smeeprocket may have meant that women have more extenuating circumstances.

[TripJack]

The problem I am having is I am having to work from the very bottom up to even get to the issues with games.

what was the issues with games again?


oh it was many pages ago

The reason violence against women is such a bad things in games is because of how casually it is treated in real life and the fact that men are physically more powerful than women. It's because of the huge rape and domestic violence statistics and the IDGAF attitude society has about the whole thing.

imaginary violence against imaginary people is bad because real violence against real people is bad

this is not much of a reason at all

[smeeprocket]

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Using derogatory terms is not helpful to your argument. I shouldn't have to keep asking that people stop using slurs.

What?

Smeep considers SJW to be a derogatory term, she mentioned it a couple posts back. Like yesterday or so.

most feminists will consider it a derogatory term, much like feminazi is.

and to be honest, it was definitely being used in a pejorative sense.

It's a descriptive term. Maybe a negative one, but I'd hardly call it a 'slur'.

it's a very negative term, and why are you throwing around derogatory terms of any sort? You're just insulting my cause doing that. Have I called you a FeMRA yet?

[smeeprocket]

The problem I am having is I am having to work from the very bottom up to even get to the issues with games.

what was the issues with games again?


oh it was many pages ago

The reason violence against women is such a bad things in games is because of how casually it is treated in real life and the fact that men are physically more powerful than women. It's because of the huge rape and domestic violence statistics and the IDGAF attitude society has about the whole thing.

imaginary violence against imaginary people is bad because real violence against real people is bad

this is not much of a reason at all

my advice is to read the thread. I'm not going to summarize things every time someone pops in to make a comment.