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KNIGHT!

42 (49.4%)

SAMURAI!

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BOTH SUCK!

15 (17.6%)

NEUTRAL!

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I DON'T CARE!

17 (20%)

Total Members Voted: 81

[Frumple]

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[NAV]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanab%C5%8D
I'm pretty sure this weapon could break bones through a knight's armour.

[Orange Wizard]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanab%C5%8D
I'm pretty sure this weapon could break bones through a knight's armour.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_hammer
That's why these things existed.

[Phmcw]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanab%C5%8D
I'm pretty sure this weapon could break bones through a knight's armour.

Less efficiently than a bec de corbin, though. It's bulky and has too much contact area.

[Neonivek]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanab%C5%8D
I'm pretty sure this weapon could break bones through a knight's armour.

Less efficiently than a bec de corbin, though. It's bulky and has too much contact area.

Well unless you understand why the Kanab exists.

[Bohandas]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanab%C5%8D
I'm pretty sure this weapon could break bones through a knight's armour.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_hammer
That's why these things existed.

So an early melee precursor to the modern High-Explosive Squash Head round

[Phmcw]

To fight against japanese armor?

What we're discussing here is futile for many reasons : first, "samurai" existed for a long time, as well as "knights", so you cannot say "they had access to x or y piece of equipement". The plate armour as you know it didn't exist for the longest part of the middle age for instance.

Second, Knights were nobility, while Samurai were not. A Samurai was any professional warrior, so they were in average less rich and equiped. Man-at-arms were a better fit.

Third, "knights" existed all over Europe and thus used various techniques and weapons at any given times.

And last the overall best and most common weapon was the spear anyway.


At the end, the Japanese didn't have or encounter any heavy armor, while European fought their share of brigandinnes, so they'd probably have an edge, and that's the only relevant thing to say.

[Graknorke]

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What the fuck. Most of those weren't even knights. I feel cheated and disappointed with the world.

even Genoese crossbows could not reliably and lethally penetrate the Late Medieval tempered plate armor that French and Italian knights wore

Crossbows were actually inferior to longbows, FYI.

[Neonivek]

Crossbows were actually inferior to longbows, FYI

Once again depends by what metric.

The ability to basically put a crossbow into just about anybody's hand and have them be competent at it.

Versus the Longbow which required a lifetime to master...

Means that the advantages and disadvantages of each are rather obvious.

[Mr. Strange]

Daily reminder

Here's longer version.

[Graknorke]

Once again depends by what metric.

The metric of being able to go through armour, as should be obvious from the context.

[Strife26]

Crossbows were actually inferior to longbows, FYI

Once again depends by what metric.

The ability to basically put a crossbow into just about anybody's hand and have them be competent at it.

Versus the Longbow which required a lifetime to master...

Means that the advantages and disadvantages of each are rather obvious.

More than a lifetime, actually. To get a good bowman, you gotta start at least with his grandfather. A competent professional crossbow man isn't just drag and drop, but it's certainly no multi-generational skillset.

[Graknorke]

Everyone knows that for a truly skilled bowman you need to start training a gorillion generations in advance.

[Phmcw]

Once again depends by what metric.

The metric of being able to go through armour, as should be obvious from the context.

And that depend on the crossbow and on the bow. You've probably heard that about the french crossbow vs the english bows during the hundred year war, which is true because th french didn't use very heavy crossbow. Heavy crossbow, on the other hand, had considerably more power.

[TamerVirus]

The best archers are blind, naturally