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Magnumcannon

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Stand-up comedians and Spoony bards!
« on: November 20, 2014, 06:41:20 pm »

 Simple as it looks, stand-up would be something that your dwarves do when they have "No Job", which will increase their "Comedian" skill, give them a good thought (If they did it right) and will also give a good thought to those who are watching (If he did it right). Dwarfs won't get a bad thought if the stand-up failed, but the comedian will.
 First, a "Entertainment zone" should be created, so the comedian will perform there. The zone would also need to be inside a meeting hall, otherwise, he would just stay there, telling stupid dorfs jokes all alone. After the zone is done, the comedian will sometimes go on that area to perform the stand-up (When "No job"). His linguistic ability would also affect his perfomance.

Also, bards. They would work somewhat like the comedians. They would perform in the same zone that the comedians perform. Unlike the comedians, the bards would need to train their skills to perform. They would do this in their room, or, if they don't have any, anywhere they feel like. There would be a skill to determine their ability with instrument, such as "drum player, flute player, harp player". Their performance would also be affectedby their musicality. If their perfomance was good, they and the dwarves who were listening to him will get a good thought. If he failed, he will get a bad thought.
 
Both of these would be jobs that the dwarves would perform if they have no job to do.
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Re: Stand-up comedians and Spoony bards!
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2014, 06:55:58 pm »

Dwarven Slipknot?
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Re: Stand-up comedians and Spoony bards!
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2014, 07:12:00 pm »

Like the idea, it would give some flavour to the game. However I think that "comedian" (a dwarf making jokes??) sounds out of time and place talking in a fantastic pre-industrial world setting. (In that case bard sounds much better fitting.)
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Re: Stand-up comedians and Spoony bards!
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2014, 07:25:16 pm »

As far as dwarves not getting annoyed by failed comedy, that should depend on their personality. Empathetic dwarves may feel bad for the comedian and if they have any such comedian skill would perhaps go and converse with him, trying to help him learn. Dwarves (can't think of the proper trait) who would not enjoy such failures may recieved an annoyed thought from a failed comedian.
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Re: Stand-up comedians and Spoony bards!
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2014, 09:16:39 pm »

Like the idea, it would give some flavour to the game. However I think that "comedian" (a dwarf making jokes??) sounds out of time and place talking in a fantastic pre-industrial world setting. (In that case bard sounds much better fitting.)

Jokes have actually been around for a very long time actually. Many of them were puns though
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« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2014, 12:58:35 am »

I think that "comedian" (a dwarf making jokes??) sounds out of time and place talking in a fantastic pre-industrial world setting.

Comedian has been a social skill in the game for years. As far as it being out of place? Saucy Limericks/Raunchy storytelling would be more period-appropriate, but the gist of what's happening is the same (someone making other's laugh).  Humor is universal, afterall.  As long as there have been humans, there have been entertainers in one form or another (what do you think people die before TV and internet!?).

As far as WHERE this happens? The inns, ofc! They aren't in game now, but they are the next thing on Toady's to-do list.  They should be the next major (non-bug) update.  Toady also mentioned that dwarves will finally put those musical instruments and skills to work in the taverns, so "bard" would fit right in (and might even be the profession name).  As far as stand-up comedy? I see no reason that dwarves couldn't put their linguistic/comedic abilities to work in  taverns as well. 
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Re: Stand-up comedians and Spoony bards!
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2014, 01:52:55 am »

Comedy was more of a theater thing, iirc. Bards/minstrels/etc were another source of it. Beyond that I don't know that there was much.
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Re: Stand-up comedians and Spoony bards!
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2014, 08:41:18 am »


Jokes have actually been around for a very long time actually. Many of them were puns though


Comedian has been a social skill in the game for years. As far as it being out of place? Saucy Limericks/Raunchy storytelling would be more period-appropriate, but the gist of what's happening is the same (someone making other's laugh).  Humor is universal, afterall.  As long as there have been humans, there have been entertainers in one form or another (what do you think people die before TV and internet!?).


Oh yes. Jokes existed since the beginning of mankind, but I thought something similar as what you said about that it would be more fitting the idea of a storyteller telling funny-obscene-interesting tales. I think that the concept of a "comedian" telling jokes from a "scenary" (OP says an "Entertainment zone") sounds more like a idea born in our twentieth century, doesn't it? That's what I was meaning say.
(Ah, english isn't my native language so if something I wrote sounds confusing that is why. Forgive any misleading interpretation or wrong grammar.)
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« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2014, 12:39:51 pm »

Its why I suggested this happen within Inns/Taverns, Orestes.  Inns were the traditional places for bards and traveling minstrels to perform, so why not have storytellers and some guy in a goofy hat singing about elves and kobolds sitting in trees...
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Re: Stand-up comedians and Spoony bards!
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2014, 12:12:30 am »

Dwarven Slipknot?

Or worse, a dwarf with high comedian and musicality might even go full-on SlipNutz by combining the two, and all the fort would boo with disappointment ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqqRB0YlZuw
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