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Tamed Creatures Should be Added to Civilization List
« on: October 28, 2014, 11:01:32 am »

Title says it all. When I go out and tame some crocodiles to the point that the civ I am playing as now knows everything about them and the fortress falls, when I start up another fort as the same civ I think it should be that I can select to bring them in as war animals or regular pets, much like you can do with dogs.
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Re: Tamed Creatures Should be Added to Civilization List
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2014, 05:38:15 pm »

That's a good idea, but with some limitations. Suuuch aaaas-
1: Fanciful or megabeasts should not be able to go back to the civ, for obvious balance reasons.
2: Maybe a size cap? I can't really see in my mind the (seemingly cramped from adventure mode perspective) dwarven fortresses having space for elaphants or a bunch of giant moose. The fortresses do seem cramped. Maybe cap it at giant cat-grizzly size?
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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2014, 06:12:31 pm »

That's a good idea, but with some limitations. Suuuch aaaas-
1: Fanciful or megabeasts should not be able to go back to the civ, for obvious balance reasons.

I think if you've managed to capture and domesticate a breeding pair of megabeasts, you've already "won" the game and deserve to watch how your civ conquers the world with wardragons. At least when these sort of things become possible. 'Sides, they would probably cost a zillion embark points anyway.

That's a good idea, but with some limitations. Suuuch aaaas-
2: Maybe a size cap? I can't really see in my mind the (seemingly cramped from adventure mode perspective) dwarven fortresses having space for elaphants or a bunch of giant moose. The fortresses do seem cramped. Maybe cap it at giant cat-grizzly size?

I'm sure dorfs are capable of making room for huge creatures, they just haven't domesticated anything larger than a cow yet.
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Re: Tamed Creatures Should be Added to Civilization List
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2014, 06:22:37 pm »

Balance does need to come into play, though.
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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2014, 06:53:54 pm »

Balance will come naturally once traps are overhauled/nerfed, tamed carnivorous creatures actually require food/water, and creature sizes are better taken into account generally (in regards to containment, transportation, etc.)

I wouldn't want a system, however, where I tame and breed two dragons in some fort and suddenly the dwarven economy is flooded with baby dragons for sale. Since megabeasts are historical figures IIRC, it wouldn't be too difficult to keep track of their activities and offspring post-worldgen. For more mundane creatures (like say, jabberers), I think it'd make more sense if the dwarf that tamed these creatures could migrate back to the mountainhomes to teach his brethren the secrets of jabberer taming before the caravans start bringing them along as common livestock.
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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2014, 07:00:24 pm »

With the ability to send armies out of the fort/ request reinforcements, I'd love to retire a fort and have them arrive as reinforcements one hundred years later in a different fort, cave dragons and hydras heading the charge. But only from that fort.
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« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2014, 07:27:45 pm »

Perhaps you could send a breeding pair back with the instructions to the caravans of "These are for the Mountainhomes for breeding. Not eating."
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« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2014, 07:55:59 pm »

Perhaps you could send a breeding pair back with the instructions to the caravans of "These are for the Mountainhomes for breeding. Not eating."

Urist McVisionary, king has mandated the construction of cave dragon steaks.
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« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2014, 08:00:24 pm »

I'd go into adventure mode and kill that king as an elf for threatening my precious cave dragons. *Pets a cave dragon* It's okay Arnold, I wont let the king eat you...
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« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2014, 09:16:08 pm »

Perhaps you could send a breeding pair back with the instructions to the caravans of "These are for the Mountainhomes for breeding. Not eating."

Urist McVisionary, king has mandated the construction of cave dragon steaks.

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