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Re: Abrahamic Religions; Discussion, Cross-reference, and Beliefs
« Reply #375 on: November 11, 2014, 06:39:44 pm »

How do you differentiate between Muhammad and pre-Muhammad teachings? Is there a discernible difference, as in the Old and New testaments?
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« Reply #376 on: November 11, 2014, 06:43:13 pm »

How do you differentiate between Muhammad and pre-Muhammad teachings? Is there a discernible difference, as in the Old and New testaments?
I honestly don't understand what you're asking, are you asking if there's any difference between Islam and Christianity/Judaism?
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Re: Abrahamic Religions; Discussion, Cross-reference, and Beliefs
« Reply #377 on: November 11, 2014, 06:45:03 pm »

Hasn't America been mostly Christian and Europe? Those countries seem to be doing pretty well

Also Muslims aren't just in poor countries, there are plenty in Europe and I'm sure they are fine, you can say,"Muslims are illiterate" since that is more of a location problem


As for Isreal, they have a reason to say everyone is against them. I mean most (if not all) of their neighbors have been constantly attacking them since they became a country.




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Just an off the wall question, if a Muslim were to go into space, like to mars, would they pray towards earth or would they need to calculate exactly what direction Mecca is in at that time, or would they just pray and not worry about that part?
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Re: Abrahamic Religions; Discussion, Cross-reference, and Beliefs
« Reply #378 on: November 11, 2014, 06:47:42 pm »

How do you differentiate between Muhammad and pre-Muhammad teachings? Is there a discernible difference, as in the Old and New testaments?
I honestly don't understand what you're asking, are you asking if there's any difference between Islam and Christianity/Judaism?

Em, no...more how the teachings of Muhammad, and the teaching before Muhammad...emmm, coexist? Trying to think of a way to reword it :/ Em, how they are compatible/incompatible?
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« Reply #379 on: November 11, 2014, 06:48:34 pm »

And what about a Muslim on the ISS? Is the prayer long enough that he'd need to turn mid-prayer as the station whizz over Mecca?

Now, more seriously, what the important of Jesus and other non-Mahommed prophets in Islam?
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« Reply #380 on: November 11, 2014, 06:49:26 pm »

Any response to my question I'll handle tomorrow. Early start, so I'm turning in.
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« Reply #381 on: November 11, 2014, 06:52:06 pm »

They would have to pray towards earth. The direction doesn't have to be exact, just a general direction would do, for example, Muslims in North Africa pray towards the East, Muslims in Russia pray towards the south, Muslims in Europe would pray towards the South East.


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« Reply #382 on: November 11, 2014, 06:55:28 pm »

Hasn't America been mostly Christian and Europe? Those countries seem to be doing pretty well
That... that's a painful statement to consider. I mean, sorta'? But the US is well known for its atrocities outside the country and the fairly terrible conditions in certain internal areas, and europe's been a bit of a mess over the years. There's plenty of places that are majority christian (South America and Africa both have a fair number of note, iirc, particularly of a catholic bent) that haven't been doing too hot. The vast, vast (vast) majority of local conditions have their causes coming from entirely non-religious sectors. And most of the remainder are genuinely connected to religious issues only nominally, at best.

People are people. Religious beliefs (unfortunately or fortunately, depending on who you ask) don't really seem to have much of an overall effect on behavior. Changes the particular manifestations of certain habits, but that's generally about it.
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« Reply #383 on: November 11, 2014, 06:56:43 pm »

They would have to pray towards earth. The direction doesn't have to be exact, just a general direction would do, for example, Muslims in North Africa pray towards the East, Muslims in Russia pray towards the south, Muslims in Europe would pray towards the South East.


EDIT: I have to go get some sleep, I'll be back tomorrow.

What if you're on Mars (or anyplace else in the solar system)? Or even further out like some distant colony light years away? At least until a holy site is established I guess.

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« Reply #384 on: November 11, 2014, 06:58:28 pm »

I think he summed it up you just pray as close as you can get to it
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« Reply #385 on: November 11, 2014, 06:58:49 pm »

And what about a Muslim on the ISS? Is the prayer long enough that he'd need to turn mid-prayer as the station whizz over Mecca?
In the same vein: How would sunrise and sunset and thus the prayers' timing be calculated while on the ISS?
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« Reply #386 on: November 11, 2014, 07:14:03 pm »

everything you set out to do must be done with God in mind, you have to offer charity to the poor etc...
Anything you'd like to know in particular?
So, with these two... when you say, "done with God in mind", is there something specific when it comes to that -- like, a checklist of thoughts, particular mindframe, etc. -- or is it a general "manage as well as you can" sort of thing? For charity, is there any specifics when it comes to that? Certain amount, to certain groups, at certain times, etc. Basically, how formalized are those two bits? From what I understand Islam is considerably more explicit about stuff like wartime practices than the other major abrahamic religious, but I'm curious how much (if) that extends to other things.

Also, any words to offer on the hadiths? Which (if any) are particularly important, which you (or, perhaps more interestingly, whichever denomination-equivalent of islam you adhere to) emphasize or discard... that sort of thing.

And denominational stuff in general would be interesting to hear about. I know there tends to be some conflict there (gods know there is with christianity, ha!), but what are your personal interactions with that sort of thing, if you don't mind sharing? Amicable, hostile, etc.
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Re: Abrahamic Religions; Discussion, Cross-reference, and Beliefs
« Reply #387 on: November 11, 2014, 07:24:53 pm »

Now, more seriously, what the important of Jesus and other non-Mahommed prophets in Islam?

Muslims totally recognize jesus as another prophet. There's really not reason for them not to. Mohammed simply happens to be more important to them than "streaker J"

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« Reply #388 on: November 11, 2014, 07:29:33 pm »

Now, more seriously, what the important of Jesus and other non-Mahommed prophets in Islam?

Muslims totally recognize jesus as another prophet. There's really not reason for them not to. Mohammed simply happens to be more important to them than "streaker J"
Though I don't think they consider him the son of god but just another prophet
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