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[Andres]

Spoiler: Responses to KJP (click to show/hide)

Yaos: The "mages" are indignant at this disturbance. They ask why you would even trust a scheming cultist's testimony.

They have the choice to officially and legally spread knowledge of their religion, as is being offered, or they can be executed for Heresy.

The ninjas refuse to give up their new comrades. They instead relocate many bandits into the deep wildreness, but this has the effect of reducing bandit activity along trade routes anyway.

(Odd, considering that they were let in to the clan partially for devotion to Yaos (similar to the Paladins). Oh well.)
The single most powerful and devoted ninja in the clan is sent to hunt the ninjas down. To complete this task, he is given paper clips and a Heldinheim Sandwiches coupon.

A translator has been brought in to interpret the documentation given by the Seppo. The translator suggests that this may be written in a dialect known only to the Seppo high priests and very few others.

Ah. Seppo High Priests. Worshippers of Fusil. Well, since they probably don't have a job any more some of the more destitute/desperate/willing of them are offered a high-paying job for help with the project.

The Armu refuse to give a significant contributor to their creator's death any favors.

"Oh well. It looks like Yaos will have to take Jeffrey's advice and destroy them, then. He was only trying to be nice, you know."

Lette has slaughtered many bandits remaining near the main roads. The Bandits' Guild demands compensation for their families, many of whom will starve.

Request granted. The Bandit Guild is given an offer where bandits will not be hunted down so long as they do not attack trade routes that Humans take.

The Emperor is calling for a private meeting with you about his absence.

Granted. (PM's, right?)

-snip-

"Good point, but unless you propose an alternative system that'll fairly distribute the booty towards the gods that deserve them I'm going to have to stick with my request."

"My hungry friend makes a good point. The sole fact that you three felt the need to go behind the collective back of the Council also upsets me."

I tried to get the council's help, but I was ignored. So when Yaos contacted me about attacking Fusil directly, I sent two angels to help.

"Exactly! So we didn't really go behind the Council's back, it's just that we were ignored, technically!"

Angela and Nuparhi give Jeffrey a dirty look and Jeffrey shrinks back. It seems they are trying to hatch the egg. The egg cannot seem to leave the Plane of Oceans and Bubbles.

"YOU'RE TRYING TO HATCH IT!?!? You do realise that Fusil made deals with the Void, right? We have no idea what that thing is and you want to HATCH IT!?" D:< "Can we at least make sure we have studied it from every angle? I have a group of Scientists who can give it a look to see if it's scientific in nature."

[Vgray]

"I am afraid this simply cannot be allowed to stand. My vote is for conviction, my decision is final."

[Andres]

(I just realised something.)

Yaos relinquishes all claims to the angels.

[DreamerGhost]

Wanting to or not, your actiions resulted in death of a fellow god. Your desire to claim all that was Fusils for yourself shows your true collors. I vote for conviction.

[Andres]

Wanting to or not, your actiions resulted in death of a fellow god. Your desire to claim all that was Fusils for yourself shows your true collors. I vote for conviction.

"It was also the Council itself that resulted in the death of a god. If I had my way, Fusil would be alive in the Death Battle Plane right now. It wasn't simply a matter of me wanting Fusil to live, it was also me actively trying to make sure Fusil lived. I've also relinquished all claims to Fusil's stuff. With Tykki dead it's kind of moot now. It had nothing to do with wanting power, by the way, but I've been sworn to secrecy not to say........ Hey that rhymed!" ^_^

[gman8181]

"Good point, but unless you propose an alternative system that'll fairly distribute the booty towards the gods that deserve them I'm going to have to stick with my request."

... No one deserves anything. You get what you can take or what others are willing to give you. The whole push for what you deserve is completely foreign to me. You don't deserve anything. There is really no particular reason to give you anything. That leaves you with taking something. And if you begin to take... and if it successful... then others will begin to want to take as well. That is my point.

Anyway. Again, I have no issue with this. I mean, you're practically noise-diving into Azem and my spheres right now. It's certainly entertaining for me.

... and then you back down.

[DreamerGhost]

If a terorist arms a bomb, but then decides to disarm it only to be stoped by law enforcers, should the terorist not be blamed for seting the bomb in the first place? As for relinquishing claims, that is hardly redeeming, seeing as you never had any valid ones.

[Andres]

"What's a bomb?"

[DreamerGhost]

Pretending to be stupid is futile. Your folowers use bombs as weapons, their creation and use were ordered by you. Fiery explosions were rather open for evryone to see when they were used in battle against underground monsters

[Andres]

Pretending to be stupid is futile. Your folowers use bombs as weapons, their creation and use were ordered by you. Fiery explosions were rather open for evryone to see when they were used in battle against underground monsters

"Oh so they're like grenades! That makes sense. Let's see if I can adapt it into the analogy......"

"Ok. This isn't like a terrorist setting a bomb - this is like a dude playing with explosives in his house (see, I'm making this analogy because the attack on the angels was legal and so is this), and then the dude was like 'Someone could get hurt by me doing this. I'd better set up some safety equipment', and then law enforcement busts in and stops him from doing that, so then a bomb explodes one of them dies. That's how the analogy should go."

[DreamerGhost]

Your analogy lacks "One of the dudes (the one who died) was there unwilingly and tied up" and "by playing I mean throving lit grenades at each other". You could also add "it was all higly illegal". And even in your unchanged analogy, ther wouldn't had been casualties if it was done under expert supervision or not done at all, would there?

[Andres]

And even in your unchanged analogy, ther wouldn't had been casualties if it was done under expert supervision or not done at all, would there?

"Except in that case, he actually did go to the one and only bomb expert in existence but he was ignored and since it was legal he just decided to go for it."

Your analogy lacks "One of the dudes (the one who died) was there unwilingly and tied up" and "by playing I mean throving lit grenades at each other". You could also add "it was all higly illegal".

"Ok, the dude who died was instead in the house next door to the bomb guy, and yes he was there unwillingly and tied up, but he was still next door. Throwing lit grenades at each other, in this case, is still legal. The attack was not illegal because Anath's Code says that we can't go after other gods. Angels are not gods, so by Council Rules I have legal right to attack them."

[Kilojoule Proton]

(Such an amusing discussion!)

[DreamerGhost]

So we arived to the point where you agree that you totaly boched up. Now to get to the point where responsibility for specificly throwing the egg in Fusils cell is claimed.  Then we will be able to move on to habe a look at what to do to you for atempting to claim the goods of metaphorical neibor you killed becouse your grenades exploded with most force.

As for being ignored by the council, what exatly did you propose?

[Andres]

So we arived to the point where you agree that you totaly boched up.

"Hey! If the law enforcement - that's the Council - hadn't prevented the dude - that's me - from preventing death, then death would have been prevented! And everyone knows that making sure a death happens is pretty much the same as making the death. For that I sue the Council for breaking Part 2 of Anath's Starter Code of Conduct!"

Then we will be able to move on to habe a look at what to do to you for atempting to claim the goods of metaphorical neibor you killed becouse your grenades exploded with most force.

"Just because my grenades exploded with the most force doesn't mean they're the ones that hit the neighbour. All of my grenades were aimed squarely at Fusil's Angels and not Fusil himself, and due to not being aimed at Fusil, NONE of those grenades hit Fusil."

As for being ignored by the council, what exatly did you propose?

"Ask Serac. He ((she?)) was the one who asked the Council."