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Re: Where am I going wrong on this creature?
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2014, 06:40:24 pm »
You wouldn't be trying to give them a dark fortress, would you?
http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=6941
http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=8365
http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=7739

And most likely more.  I dont anything about it, frankly.
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Re: Where am I going wrong on this creature?
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2014, 09:48:40 pm »
Emm... they do tolerate them, but its strange, as on some I coulc get all the way to the embark screen. But then, maybe they had never created one. I'll test.
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Re: Where am I going wrong on this creature?
« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2014, 05:22:10 pm »
OK, it does not crash when I remove [BABYSNATCHER]. Why would this be?

EDIT: I am assuming that the game does not like babysnatcher races being playable.
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Re: Where am I going wrong on this creature?
« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2014, 09:40:10 pm »
OK, so its crashing anyway. I'm gonna post the RAWs.
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Re: Where am I going wrong on this creature?
« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2014, 11:25:43 pm »
Playable babysnatcher races are fine, at least in DF2012.
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Re: Where am I going wrong on this creature?
« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2014, 07:17:59 am »
Quote from: smakemupagus on October 06, 2014, 11:25:43 pm
Playable babysnatcher races are fine, at least in DF2012.
And that's why I'll heavily scan for errors, r0then post, the RAWs - see if better minds than myself can work it out.
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Re: Where am I going wrong on this creature?
« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2014, 06:30:45 pm »
Sigh... DFFD isn't working, so I'll have to paste it here:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
This is the entity file; here is the creature file:
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Now, this works perfectly with a history under 5 years. If above - crash with no errorlog.
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Re: Where am I going wrong on this creature?
« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2014, 06:36:38 pm »
Lookin' good.
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Re: Where am I going wrong on this creature?
« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2014, 08:05:55 pm »
Quote from: Illogical_Blox on October 09, 2014, 06:30:45 pm
I'm gonna start running this through a gamut of tests to see where the problem lies. Also code][/code is very good for posted raws (add brackets before and after for it to work in post, or just use button that has a # on it).

So far I know it is absolutely an entity issue (appears even with other creatures) and it doesn't always happen. I genned a world for 30+yrs without a crash, but from 1-60 are potentially crashy. Will continue fiddling until I know more (I believe this may be related to Putnam's DBZ frieza race crashing the game, and that is from 34.x).
Like 85% certain it's a position issue. Figuring out what exactly it is will be a pain.
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Re: Where am I going wrong on this creature?
« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2014, 02:04:49 pm »
Quote from: ArKFallen on October 09, 2014, 08:05:55 pm
Quote from: Illogical_Blox on October 09, 2014, 06:30:45 pm
I'm gonna start running this through a gamut of tests to see where the problem lies. Also code][/code is very good for posted raws (add brackets before and after for it to work in post, or just use button that has a # on it).

So far I know it is absolutely an entity issue (appears even with other creatures) and it doesn't always happen. I genned a world for 30+yrs without a crash, but from 1-60 are potentially crashy. Will continue fiddling until I know more (I believe this may be related to Putnam's DBZ frieza race crashing the game, and that is from 34.x).
Like 85% certain it's a position issue. Figuring out what exactly it is will be a pain.
Thanks mate!
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Re: Where am I going wrong on this creature?
« Reply #25 on: October 11, 2014, 09:43:40 am »
Oh, and, er, would you mind helping me figure out what the position issue is? I'm not entirely sure what that is, though I believe it refers to nobles?
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Re: Where am I going wrong on this creature?
« Reply #26 on: October 11, 2014, 04:01:06 pm »
Quote from: Illogical_Blox on October 11, 2014, 09:43:40 am
Oh, and, er, would you mind helping me figure out what the position issue is? I'm not entirely sure what that is, though I believe it refers to nobles?
It does refer to the nobles. I am currently doing a remove-a-noble-and-gen to see if it is with a specific noble or an interaction between them. I am also now quite certain this has nothing to do with Putnam's issue.

The issue appears to originate with the bishops and the pope. Removing them or their LAW_MAKING allows world generation to go over 70 years (won't try much longer than their lifespan)(I try at least 3 worlds each time I think I might have it, sometimes more). Removing it from the Bishops alone sometimes allows it to go that long as well, but there will still be crashes.

I honestly don't know what the actually causes the crash. Barons/Counts/Dukes all have LAW_MAKING and removing RELIGION from the bishops and pope still leads to crashes (though it takes longer on average with popes).
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Re: Where am I going wrong on this creature?
« Reply #27 on: October 11, 2014, 11:08:40 pm »
Binary searches are useful for finding errors. If your game is crashing due to a civilized creature, replace the creature in the civilization with a different one, such as humans. If the game still crashes, there's your problem. At that point, you basically just have to replace half the features with some default at a time; for example, remove positions and replace them with something else, and if it's not that, it's probably currency or something weird.
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Re: Where am I going wrong on this creature?
« Reply #28 on: October 16, 2014, 02:05:26 pm »
Thanks; I think I know how to correct it.
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Re: Where am I going wrong on this creature?
« Reply #29 on: October 16, 2014, 06:27:15 pm »
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Binary searches are useful for finding errors. If your game is crashing due to a civilized creature, replace the creature in the civilization with a different one, such as humans. If the game still crashes, there's your problem. At that point, you basically just have to replace half the features with some default at a time; for example, remove positions and replace them with something else, and if it's not that, it's probably currency or something weird.

Quote from: Illogical_Blox on October 16, 2014, 02:05:26 pm
Thanks; I think I know how to correct it.

Well do let us know. Because I found positions that worked fine in one race crash when applied to humans. I never figured out the reason why.
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