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Yes to both Judeism and Islam

[MonkeyHead]

Do keep in mind this is a christian beliefs discussion not an atheist discussion

Apologies. Though, "know thy enemy" and all that, right?

[TD1]

Do keep in mind this is a christian beliefs discussion not an atheist discussion

Discussion would imply that some talk on atheism is permitted, as long as it is in a Christian-temed debate.

[Descan]

Generally I prefer to ask people why they view faith as a good thing, and why it trumps evidence or logic. >_>


And yeah, I've never actually seen someone hold to the idea of gnostic theism. I've only ever heard of it as a strawman from fundamentalist theists, or as a philosophical point, an example of a possible stance if not probable stance.

[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

Do keep in mind this is a christian beliefs discussion not an atheist discussion

Discussion would imply that some talk on atheism is permitted, as long as it is in a Christian-temed debate.

Ya, currently the only thread of Christianity in this discussion is the way in which different atheists view it

I don't think there is really enough Christianity in the current discussion to make it fall under this threads criteria

[MonkeyHead]

Do keep in mind this is a christian beliefs discussion not an atheist discussion

Discussion would imply that some talk on atheism is permitted, as long as it is in a Christian-temed debate.

Ya, currently the only thread of Christianity in this discussion is the way in which different atheists view it

I don't think there is really enough Christianity in the current discussion to make it fall under this threads criteria

That is probably down to forum demographics more than anything else. Cant blame us for trying

[Helgoland]

And yeah, I've never actually seen someone hold to the idea of gnostic theism. I've only ever heard of it as a strawman from fundamentalist theists, or as a philosophical point, an example of a possible stance if not probable stance.

It's rarely consciously presented as a belief, but you get plenty of "Religion is so irrational and therefore wrong!" people, like the Oatmeal (at least according to that second comic). The belief that all religions (and especially Christianity) are wrong is very widespread - and it falls, as far as I can tell, into the category you call (or tried to call ) gnostic atheism.

[TD1]

Do keep in mind this is a christian beliefs discussion not an atheist discussion

Discussion would imply that some talk on atheism is permitted, as long as it is in a Christian-temed debate.

Ya, currently the only thread of Christianity in this discussion is the way in which different atheists view it

I don't think there is really enough Christianity in the current discussion to make it fall under this threads criteria

If you want to strictly enforce the "Christian talk only" criteria, the thread will not be quite as busy
A bit of discourse is healthy.

[Baffler]

Do keep in mind this is a christian beliefs discussion not an atheist discussion

Discussion would imply that some talk on atheism is permitted, as long as it is in a Christian-temed debate.

Ya, currently the only thread of Christianity in this discussion is the way in which different atheists view it

I don't think there is really enough Christianity in the current discussion to make it fall under this threads criteria

That is probably down to forum demographics more than anything else. Cant blame us for trying

Indeed. At least it's balanced enough to avoid this being the "everyone dogpile on these this one guy" thread.

Generally I prefer to ask people why they view faith as a good thing, and why it trumps evidence or logic. >_>

Well, there IS that religion in India that views all life as sacred (tot he extent they only use fallen branches for firewood)... and all those sacred groves there that are claimed to have helped save a number of species from extinction...

I mean, yes, we could do that normally, but the thing is most people wouldn't. They'd end up going extinct. The faith of the people is what stopped them being demolished and all those species being wiped out.

Anyways, back on track... uhh...

Nope, my brain's too far off the rails to think about the tracks.

That sounds dangerously Elfy...

[Rolan7]

And yeah, I've never actually seen someone hold to the idea of gnostic theism. I've only ever heard of it as a strawman from fundamentalist theists, or as a philosophical point, an example of a possible stance if not probable stance.

It's rarely consciously presented as a belief, but you get plenty of "Religion is so irrational and therefore wrong!" people, like the Oatmeal (at least according to that second comic). The belief that all religions (and especially Christianity) are wrong is very widespread - and it falls, as far as I can tell, into the category you call (or tried to call ) gnostic atheism.

Just because the major world religions are irrational doesn't mean there isn't a god, though.
It's simple to show that a certain doctrine is definitely wrong, when it contradicts itself.  That's what most "atheists" do, since yeah - You can't absolutely prove that there is no god.  The skeptic doesn't have to belief anything, just point out the inconsistencies.

A skeptic sees that all the major religions are either inconsistent or have no observable impact on reality (and thus are as meaningless as the invisible space unicorn theory), or both.  This means that, despite centuries of all of humanity searching for the divine, we haven't found a testable one.  It's a reasonable (but not provable) conclusion that there *isn't* a god who actually affects the world at all.  No belief involved.

[Helgoland]

Do note the 'all religions' bit. Specific religions being contradictory doesn't come into it.
Also note that I'm talking precisely about the people who do not make the arguments that you do. The dumb atheists, you know?

[Descan]

Again, I've never met one who actually thinks like that. Best I've gotten close to is Yahoo! and YouTube comments, and with Poe around and the fact that they're... Yahoo! and YouTube comments... Well, yeah.

[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

Well moving on to a different topic



Asking the Christians here, what means do you think god will end the world?


I kinda like the idea of a gamma ray burst. Would cause a pretty hellish environment on earth until everything died off

[Arcvasti]

Ran across this somewhere else. Exactly how canon are the Tzadikism Nistarim?

[Cheeetar]

Well moving on to a different topic



Asking the Christians here, what means do you think god will end the world?


I kinda like the idea of a gamma ray burst. Would cause a pretty hellish environment on earth until everything died off

Interesting topic! Question: When do you think it's most likely god will end the world?

[Leafsnail]

How is horribly slaughtering every living thing on earth compatible with a non-evil deity?