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Re: Christian beliefs and discussion
« Reply #1560 on: October 25, 2014, 04:40:37 pm »

MonkeyHead. Chill composure and respect and stuff please.
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« Reply #1561 on: October 25, 2014, 06:07:45 pm »

There is an education issue, and it gets pretty terrible sometimes. My roommate's creationist high school biology teacher always structured the year so evolution was the last topic they covered, and it always got cut because the other topics conveniently took longer than expected.
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« Reply #1562 on: October 25, 2014, 06:10:59 pm »

Having read the last few pages it has become apparent to me that the main reasons Christians reject evolution is that they are taught basically a bunch of horse excrement that bears little or no relevance to what evolutionary theory actually claims - presumably that someone has an interest in misrepresenting for some reason. Evolution is not a "belief". You agree with it as a theory that explains a whole bunch of observational evidence, or you reject it. There is no "faith" as far as observational evidence is concerned The trouble with rejecting it is that you then need to offer up a better theory to explain observations if you want your rejection to be taken seriously - and as yet, there is no better theory. Doing so for a faith based belief will attract challenges, for fairly obvious reasons. Rejecting it on a "feeling" is intellectually dishonest. Rejecting the evidence itself is totally intellectually dishonest - observation has no subjectivity, no agenda, no preclusion - it just IS.

Oh, and this is also fucking awesome - Slime moulds self assembling into complex multicellular structures based on environmental stimuli: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictyostelium_discoideum

I agree that the link is indeed awesome. Varying degrees of disagreement radiate through the rest of your post.
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Re: Christian beliefs and discussion
« Reply #1563 on: October 25, 2014, 07:15:23 pm »

Belief or agreement you should be able to understand what I mean when I say I don't believe in it
If not here's what I mean
I don't agree with it
And since it's just a theory and not proven fact you can't have any more problem with me "disagreeing" with it as you have with me being Christian
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Re: Christian beliefs and discussion
« Reply #1564 on: October 25, 2014, 07:22:31 pm »

And since it's just a theory and not proven fact you can't have any more problem with me "disagreeing" with it as you have with me being Christian

Nuclear Fission is "just a theory"
Black holes are "just a theory"
GRAVITY is "just a theory"


It can't be CALLED a theory  without a massive amount of evidence. Theory MEANS "explanation of existing evidence." It isn't a synonym for "guess".
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« Reply #1565 on: October 25, 2014, 07:25:28 pm »

Actually I don't think there is a single 'theory of gravity'. There's the theory of general relativity which explains gravity, and maybe some others I don't know.

Anyway, this is getting off topic now. It's pretty clear Cryxis isn't interested in changing his worldview because of some people bugging him on the internet.
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Re: Christian beliefs and discussion
« Reply #1566 on: October 25, 2014, 07:35:15 pm »

Thanks

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Re: Christian beliefs and discussion
« Reply #1567 on: October 25, 2014, 07:38:08 pm »

Wow, this thread exploded. About ten-twenty pages spawned when I wasn't looking.
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Re: Christian beliefs and discussion
« Reply #1568 on: October 25, 2014, 07:46:16 pm »

So I'm opening this thread to Judaism discussion as well
Got a problem with it, get over it
Judaism is so close to Christianity that it might as well be open to be discussed in here
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Re: Christian beliefs and discussion
« Reply #1569 on: October 25, 2014, 07:48:36 pm »

So I'm opening this thread to Judaism discussion as well
Got a problem with it, get over it
Judaism is so close to Christianity that it might as well be open to be discussed in here

Two questions:

1: Will the thread title be changed to reflect this?

2: Will the discussion consist of people asking members of the faith[Not sure how many Bay12 has off the top of my head] about it or will it be a discussion driven solely by outsiders?
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Re: Christian beliefs and discussion
« Reply #1570 on: October 25, 2014, 07:50:56 pm »

Does anybody else see thos classic movie clip in their head whenever they hear the Parable of the Good Shepherd (Matt 18:12-14, Luke 15:3-7)?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd7e1fXYIuM

It's essentially the same story, except told from a different perspective and with a rather important bit of context left in which was omitted from Jesus' tale and which changes the whole tone.
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Re: Christian beliefs and discussion
« Reply #1571 on: October 25, 2014, 07:53:10 pm »

So I'm opening this thread to Judaism discussion as well
Got a problem with it, get over it
Judaism is so close to Christianity that it might as well be open to be discussed in here

Two questions:

1: Will the thread title be changed to reflect this?

2: Will the discussion consist of people asking members of the faith[Not sure how many Bay12 has off the top of my head] about it or will it be a discussion driven solely by outsiders?

1- yes it will be "Christian and Judaism beliefs and discussion"

2- it will be just like it is now, Jewish bay12ers will be open to discuss their beliefs and people will be open to question them

Also the rules of no insults, stay within forum guidelines, and no bashing on people will still apply
Though I may add no badgering and no 'everybody gang up and question the living spirit out of the guy' rules as well
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Re: Christian beliefs and discussion
« Reply #1572 on: October 25, 2014, 07:54:20 pm »

Oh hey, I have interesting Judaism stories. I used to live next door to an Orthodox Rabbi. One friday after dark, I heard a faint rapping on my door. I answer it and it's the neighbours wife. They had left their stove on and haden't turned it off before dark, so they had me come over and turn it off for them.
Another time, they had forgotten to wedge a piece of cardboard in the fridge light switch, so they couldn't open the fridge. They had me open it and wedge the thing off. I found it interesting that opening the fridge was just fine, but if it also turned on a light that was not fine.
Nicest neighbours I ever had.
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Re: Christian beliefs and discussion
« Reply #1573 on: October 25, 2014, 07:57:38 pm »

"Abrahamic religions discussion"?
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« Reply #1574 on: October 25, 2014, 07:58:15 pm »

"Abrahamic religions discussion"?

No because I have been advised to keep Islam out of this because it's a guaranteed flame war
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