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[Descan]

Li-bee-ral.

[mastahcheese]

*Kicks the derail in the face*

SO.

If god feared man when we were building the tower of babble, why?
If it was an actual tower, the highest we could reach is space, and then we'd run out of atmosphere and die.
If it was secretly a spaceship (and only called a tower because they wouldn't know what else to call it) then that means god is a physical being somewhere in space.

So, is god/heaven pysically reachable? If not, was it in the past, and god relocated? If it was never reachable, why did he act?

[tahujdt]

*Kicks the derail in the face*

SO.

If god feared man when we were building the tower of babble, why?
If it was an actual tower, the highest we could reach is space, and then we'd run out of atmosphere and die.
If it was secretly a spaceship (and only called a tower because they wouldn't know what else to call it) then that means god is a physical being somewhere in space.

So, is god/heaven pysically reachable? If not, was it in the past, and god relocated? If it was never reachable, why did he act?

I'm getting a mental image of God looking down from his cloud or whatever, seeing the tower, and saying "*sigh* There goes the neighborhood."
Also, it's 'Babel', not 'babble'.

[mastahcheese]

I'm debating the Bible, not reading it!

Babel babbel babel

[Baffler]

It's appropriate though, considering God's response to its construction.

[Bouchart]

In Genesis 9, God commands Noah and his sons to spread across the whole earth.

In Genesis 11, everyone decides to go to Shinar to build a tower instead.  So God creates a bunch of languages to confuse people so they spread out over the earth.

The fact that they were building a tower wasn't the issue.

[TD1]

I'm also curious about this:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Genesis 9:20 And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:
21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father’s nakedness.
24 ¶ And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.
25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.
26 And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

Should anyone who sees his naked father be made a servant/slave?

[Retropunch]

I'm also curious about this:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Genesis 9:20 And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:
21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father’s nakedness.
24 ¶ And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.
25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.
26 And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

Should anyone who sees his naked father be made a servant/slave?

Yup. This is exactly the kind of thing that makes me absolutely disregard anyone who quotes rules or laws from the Old Testament as being in anyway applicable to modern life. But lets not forget the when Jesus curses a tree.

[tahujdt]

I'm also curious about this:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Genesis 9:20 And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:
21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father’s nakedness.
24 ¶ And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.
25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.
26 And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

Should anyone who sees his naked father be made a servant/slave?

Yup. This is exactly the kind of thing that makes me absolutely disregard anyone who quotes rules or laws from the Old Testament as being in anyway applicable to modern life. But lets not forget the when Jesus curses a tree.

The thing about him seeing his father naked wasn't so much that as he ran off and told his siblings, "Hey, guess what? Dad's passed out in his tent? Ya know what else? He's totally nude!"

Also, Jesus killing the fig tree was more him showing off a little bit.

[scrdest]

I'm also curious about this:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Genesis 9:20 And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:
21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father’s nakedness.
24 ¶ And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.
25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.
26 And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

Should anyone who sees his naked father be made a servant/slave?

Yup. This is exactly the kind of thing that makes me absolutely disregard anyone who quotes rules or laws from the Old Testament as being in anyway applicable to modern life. But lets not forget the when Jesus curses a tree.

The thing about him seeing his father naked wasn't so much that as he ran off and told his siblings, "Hey, guess what? Dad's passed out in his tent? Ya know what else? He's totally nude!"

It's still kinda not a sound basis for condemning the guilty party's child to slavery.

[TD1]

What kind of God shows off by killing a fig tree?

I mean, it's rather obnoxious and....silly.

[mastahcheese]

So if I run around naked, I can make people my slaves?

...Why does this not get mentioned more often?

[Frumple]

What kind of God shows off by killing a fig tree?

I mean, it's rather obnoxious and....silly.

Maybe it was a really kickass fig tree? Like, that tree was what actually happened to Chronos and Zeus was just lying so everyone wouldn't fear the nigh infinitely mighty figging that awaited them in the middle east.

[smjjames]

I'm also curious about this:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Genesis 9:20 And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:
21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father’s nakedness.
24 ¶ And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.
25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.
26 And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

Should anyone who sees his naked father be made a servant/slave?

Yup. This is exactly the kind of thing that makes me absolutely disregard anyone who quotes rules or laws from the Old Testament as being in anyway applicable to modern life. But lets not forget the when Jesus curses a tree.

The thing about him seeing his father naked wasn't so much that as he ran off and told his siblings, "Hey, guess what? Dad's passed out in his tent? Ya know what else? He's totally nude!"

Also, Jesus killing the fig tree was more him showing off a little bit.

What, did he call down lightning on the tree or something?

[Orange Wizard]

No, he basically just yelled at it and it withered and died.