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[martinuzz]

Yeah and let's hope that the hundreds of police officers that are suddenly unemployed and angry don't turn to crime.

[Frumple]

I mean, apparently the majority of the ones in question don't actually live in the city, so. It's kind of an "even if they do, it's someone else's problem" sorta' thing.

Interim they can probably request aid from state or federal organizations, though. Might not be an improvement in the short term but it's questionable it'll make things worse. Stateside it's not unknown for folks' general welfare to get better with the cops pack it in and go home, ha.

I do wonder how that is going to work in practice though. Who are people going to call when they get robbed, or when their child gets raped? Ghostbusters?

Hell, even odds ghostbusters would do about as much good, so, uh.

Nevermind how common it is to just not get the cops involved in either of those to begin with, due to how largely fucking useless (at best) they'd be in either case

[Cthulhu]

Yeah and let's hope that the hundreds of police officers that are suddenly unemployed and angry don't turn to crime.

They and every other cop in the country has a huge material interest in this experiment failing.  Expect them to try to fuck it up.

[chaoticag]

Yesterday, a majority of the Minneapolis city council has voted in favour of completely dismantling the Minneapolis police.
The city council members that voted in favour do admit that they do not have any concrete ideas on how to replace it with something new.
They said they want to discuss a new structure of public safety with the community.
"It is clear that the current police system is incapable of protecting our communities", says council president Lisa Bender. "Our attempts at gradual reform have failed".
last Saturday, the mayor of Minneapolis was hissed and boo'd by a sea of protestors when he said he did not support the complete dismantling of the police.

I do wonder how that is going to work in practice though. Who are people going to call when they get robbed, or when their child gets raped? Ghostbusters?

As of right now, there still could be a place for a lesser amount of armed police at the moment, armed with less armored cars and tear gas and used in cases of violent criminals. As of right now though? The standards for many states and I am sure this includes Minnesota tends to be at a highschool level with about 8 weeks of training, and they sound willing to keep people with 70 incidents of use of force on the force, with many of the police not even from the area they police, so it might be best to burn it down and start over.

A popular idea floating around right now is to replace a lot of the things police do with other systems and organizations. If you need a wellness check on someone would you rather have the police do it or a care worker specialized in dealing with folks?

As far as the issue of unemployed cops goes, getting fired for unauthorized uses of force doesn't seem to stop them from moving to another area to become a cop there.

[TamerVirus]

Give the EMTs police training so they can triage the criminals they shoot 

[SalmonGod]

A twitter thread that addresses the question fairly well.

Basically, yeah, it's about replacing police with better suited services.  Most of what police do is not stuff that they have any business doing.  They're an organization that we train and equip for nothing but violence, and then use them for a majority of purposes that have nothing to do with violence.  And even in situations involving violence, all they do most of the time is escalate that violence.  As it stands, the only thing it makes sense to call police for is filing legal complaint/incident reports, or if you want to try and get somebody killed.  And in other situations where those are not your needs, chances are when you call for help, it's police who will show up anyway and respond with violence where none was needed.

Really I think that there probably should be something like the police in modern society's current form, but it should be like 5% of its current size and funding.  The other 95% should be re-directed to various types of social workers and programs.  Basically, the exact opposite of this image.  Crime would plummet.

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[SOLDIER First]

Spoiler: Relevant dril tweet (click to show/hide)

[Cthulhu]

Cities are obsolete.  Maybe they made sense when people needed to be near their workplace and essential goods and services, but that's no longer true to the extent that we need cities.  Everything I want or need is a 30 minute drive or a two day delivery away from me and I live in Bumfuck, Nowhere.

Get rid of them.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Suburbs are obsolete, cities are good land and transportation usage so long as you bother to actually have those things.

Actually, suburbs were never good, so I guess they can't really be obsolete. But regardless, dig a big hole in the desert and throw all the suburbs inside it.

[Naturegirl1999]

Spoiler: Relevant dril tweet (click to show/hide)

It is clear less needs to be spent on candles. Candles can’t be eaten, or drank, or used for access to current events (news). Rent is needed because shelter’s a requirement, and data is needed because knowing what’s happening is important.
If all money from candles was spent on the other things, and everything was spent equally, rent, food, data and utility would get $1225 dollars each

[SOLDIER First]

Coincidentally, the same applies to the police!

[Naturegirl1999]

Coincidentally, the same applies to the police!

Yes. That it does, in larger numbers. If all lines in the graph had numbers, I could do the calculations for dividing the total number of $ by 8 (if all money given to police was put I tothe other systems and if lol systems had equal mounts of money) or divided by 9 (all money being divided among the 9 sections) or, as the suggestion here, calculate 5% of total money in budget to give to police, and (possibly) divide the remaining 95% by 8

[Kagus]

Here in Norway, I remember calling the non-emergency police line a couple years ago when I saw a few dudes sat on a bench in city center digging into a sixpack (we have public drinking laws, open alcohol containers in public are a no-no). The call went thusly:

Me: "Hey, there's a group of guys in the central plaza cracking open some beers. Thought you should know."

PD: "Okay, are they harassing anyone?"

Me: "No no, they seem to be keeping to themselves"

PD: "Alright, let us know if they get violent, we'll make a note."


And that was it. Yeah, sure, the guys may have been in direct violation of the law, but... It's a warm summer day. Of course you're gonna want to sit down in the sun and crack open a couple. The cops understand. They'd like to be doing the same thing.

[SOLDIER First]

So you narced on them?

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Wow, way to snitch on people for no reason.