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Re: The Abusive Policing Thread: Beyond Brown, No Justice
« Reply #810 on: December 12, 2014, 01:21:37 pm »

The shoe detail is a strange one. I'm size 13 and there's no way I could fit my feet in 10.5s without damaging one of them. But why put somebody in wrong sized shoes when you kill them?
Shoes are expensive things, especially good ones.  At least $50-$100 bucks for a new one.  The wrong sized shoes may just be used old ones.
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« Reply #811 on: December 12, 2014, 01:22:29 pm »

Shoes are expensive things, especially good ones.  At least $50-$100 bucks for a new one.  The wrong sized shoes may just be used old ones.

Except the part where they're way too small for his feet and his family doesn't know where they came from and they had no laces
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« Reply #812 on: December 12, 2014, 01:24:44 pm »

Shoes are expensive things, especially good ones.  At least $50-$100 bucks for a new one.  The wrong sized shoes may just be used old ones.

Except the part where they're way too small for his feet and his family doesn't know where they came from and they had no laces
Well... yea.  Implying that someone took his new Jordans and put on some old small ones...
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« Reply #813 on: December 12, 2014, 01:24:59 pm »

here's another fun one...

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/handcuffed-black-youth-shot-himself-death-says-coroner-n185016
I've seen multiple cases of that in the last year or so, including a Hispanic youth here in Durham, NC who supposedly shot himself in a parked patrol car while handcuffed with a gun that nobody found on him during the patdown.  ::)

And the internal investigation cleared all the officers involved. At bare minimum, somebody's chops should have been busted for missing the gun on the patdown.
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« Reply #814 on: December 12, 2014, 01:27:25 pm »

Well... yea.  Implying that someone took his new Jordans and put on some old small ones...

Obviously he was hiding the shoes that were way too small for years until he decided to kill himself, right
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« Reply #815 on: December 12, 2014, 01:32:15 pm »

Well... yea.  Implying that someone took his new Jordans and put on some old small ones...

Obviously he was hiding the shoes that were way too small for years until he decided to kill himself, right
It's obviously part of a conspiracy by black youth to frame honest, upstanding law enforcement. Along with throwing themselves at officer's bullets and jumping into randomly placed clouds of tear gas.
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« Reply #816 on: December 12, 2014, 01:33:45 pm »

Ferguson protesters win injunction against use of tear gas.
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A federal judge ruled Thursday that police can no longer use tear gas on protesters without declaring an illegal assembly, giving them fair warning and time to vacate the area.
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U.S. Federal Judge Carol Jackson heard testimony for nine hours, from plaintiffs as well as police from St. Louis County and the city of St. Louis, according to Brendan Roediger, one of the lead attorney’s on the case.

“Ultimately she decided there was substantial evidence that police had violated the constitutional rights of the protesters, that it was a restriction on their free speech,” Roediger told msnbc shortly after the judge made her ruling.

“The best thing the judge said and she said it a couple of times, was that ‘it’s clear to me for some reason the police are treating this group, around this movement, differently than they treat other large crowds,” Roediger said. “Hopefully it’ll put an end to the practice of protesters having no idea what the police response will be. No more of this sort of punishment in the streets where what the police are going to do is unpredictable and often violent,” he said.
The temporary restraining order and two other articles. Not read anything beyond the first yet myself.

I also missed this one; Two Florida police officers outed as Klan members.

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« Reply #817 on: December 12, 2014, 01:48:06 pm »

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« Reply #818 on: December 12, 2014, 01:55:48 pm »

And another one...

http://www.policestateusa.com/2014/aiyana-stanley-jones-raid/

edit: you'll notice in the kkk article, it wasn't the first time. The last time the officer was the leader of the local kkk. I think it would be prudent to review the entire dept. I'm sure there are more of them in there.
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« Reply #819 on: December 12, 2014, 02:27:54 pm »

@KKK
So... to be a devil's advocate.
Is simply being a member of the KKK sufficient grounds for dismissal if they have done nothing wrong otherwise?

Cause yea, witch hunt and all the shenanigans that entails...
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« Reply #820 on: December 12, 2014, 02:37:18 pm »

yes, it very much is. Witch hunt? You're not even playing devil's advocate at this point. Why not just say "I mean, is violence against black people really such a bad thing for a cop? Just playing devil's advocate here."

It serves no purpose to ask asinine questions like that unless the intent is to be utterly offensive.

Also another fun article.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cops-beat-kidnap-12-yo-girl-front-home-claiming-prostitute/
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« Reply #821 on: December 12, 2014, 02:42:15 pm »

@KKK
So... to be a devil's advocate.
Is simply being a member of the KKK sufficient grounds for dismissal if they have done nothing wrong otherwise?

Cause yea, witch hunt and all the shenanigans that entails...

Yeah, it's not a good thing if you're part of a group that advocates violence against minorities and act like you're an objective officer for justice. Hence why they hide their identities from the public.
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« Reply #822 on: December 12, 2014, 02:48:41 pm »

@KKK
So... to be a devil's advocate.
Is simply being a member of the KKK sufficient grounds for dismissal if they have done nothing wrong otherwise?

Cause yea, witch hunt and all the shenanigans that entails...

Look at it on a practical level. Some day this guy might arrest a minority member and have to testify in court as to why. The defence lawyer can bring up the fact that he is a publicly known clan member.

His biases and judgement are called into the spotlight and every arrest - hell, every action - he makes that could have any racial or prejudicial basis exposes the force to an easy civil rights suit. They are already reviewing all their past action for potential bias. Keeping them on the force would only make matters worse down the line.

They didn't commit a crime, but at the same time things don't have to rise to that level to make someone unsuitable for their job. If I was a schoolteacher who moonlighted as a supporter of PIE and the latter came out, I would justifiably lose my job even if I had never committed a crime.
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« Reply #824 on: December 12, 2014, 03:46:32 pm »

I don't see any reason why such a policy would lead to a witchhunt.  You could make the same argument about any police eligibility rule.
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