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[smjjames]

Chances are that Trump will probably increase airstrikes on Mosul (if we are doing that), if the Iraqi army can last that long.

fakeedit: Is trench warfare possible ih the desert? I don't know the properties of the terrain in the Mosul region.....

[Loud Whispers]

Chances are that Trump will probably increase airstrikes on Mosul (if we are doing that), if the Iraqi army can last that long.
fakeedit: Is trench warfare possible ih the desert? I don't know the properties of the terrain in the Mosul region.....

Trench warfare is possible everywhere that's not the arctic or mountains. While there has not been trench warfare going on in Syria or Iraq, the Kurds, Iraqis and Syrians have made extensive use of trenches around their controlled areas and cities

*EDIT
Trenches were dug by surprise a while ago

[smjjames]

Chances are that Trump will probably increase airstrikes on Mosul (if we are doing that), if the Iraqi army can last that long.
fakeedit: Is trench warfare possible ih the desert? I don't know the properties of the terrain in the Mosul region.....

Trench warfare is possible everywhere that's not the arctic or mountains. While there has not been trench warfare going on in Syria or Iraq, the Kurds, Iraqis and Syrians have made extensive use of trenches around their controlled areas and cities

*EDIT
Trenches were dug by surprise a while ago

As long as the ice is thick enough, you could certainly dig trenches into it, mountains present obvious terrain problems.

Mainly I just wasn't sure how sandy the terrain around Mosul was.

[Erkki]

Theres special kind of explosive charge for "digging" manholes once the ground is frozen. You use one and then shovel away. Much easier than digging frozen ground.

[martinuzz]

Making captured enemies dig the trenches for you is a more environmentally friendly alternative to dirty polluting explosives

[Loud Whispers]

Making captured enemies dig the trenches for you is a more environmentally friendly alternative to dirty polluting explosives

Letting your enemies dig the fortifications you intend to use for protecting your own forces seems like a very bad idea, they would know the layout of everything and could deliberately sabotage them

[Vilanat]

The only thing the Obama administration is doing right now about Aleppo and Syria is working relentlessly to shift the blame toward Trump. i would not be surprised if in a month or so i'll see posts in this or the american threads blaming Trump for the next Syrian trending story. if it's on twitter now, it will be here as well.

This is pure propaganda, but is very telling of Syria's future:
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/syrians-are-graffiting-goodbye-messages-walls-left-aleppo-1271563534

While trying to search if/when the west started growing suspicious of Jordan since iv'e been to Jordan circa 2006 and met Jihadists from the Iraqi sunni insurgency in downtown Amman living rather comfortably and if i was aware of it there is no way in hell the Jordanian secret service wasn't aware of it, i stumbled on an interesting old article:
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2006/07/the-short-violent-life-of-abu-musab-al-zarqawi/304983/

I am surprised Jordan has been kept rather quiet during the Syrian civil war. they have the highest foreign ISIS fighters per capita, they have a misrepresented palestinian majority which 10% of it still lives in refugee camps, its population by statistics and anecdotal conversations is extremely hostile to the West, they have a strong religious identity and outdated traditions, they have let foreign Sunni insurgents enter Iraq during the Sunni insurgency and form bases of operations inside their country just like Syria have and just like Turkey does now. they have all the ingredients that resulted in a full scale Insurgency but haven't so i guess the conclusion is that it's in the interest of Sunnis leaders that Jordan wont "enjoy" an "Arab spring".

[martinuzz]

The UN expresses great concern about the refugees that are now being allowed out of Aleppo. They are being evacuated to Idlib.

Idlib will be the next target on Assad's list once he has established full control of Aleppo. In fact, the battle for Idlib has already begun, with airstrikes hitting the city over the past few weeks, and just last week, a primary school was bombed killing 35 children. The evacuees can expect to make a trip out of the frying pan, into the fire.

[Vilanat]

So, Jordan.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/18/canadian-tourist-five-killed-gunmen-jordan-karak

[smjjames]

So, Jordan.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/18/canadian-tourist-five-killed-gunmen-jordan-karak

Inside a castle no less.

[Vilanat]

Inside a Crusaders castle no less.

Indeed

[martinuzz]

Why would Canadians have to go on holiday to the Middle East anyways? Don't they have liberal euthanasia laws there?

[Vilanat]

Petra is well worth the relatively (currently) low terrorism risk.

[Flying Dice]

Chances are that Trump will probably increase airstrikes on Mosul (if we are doing that), if the Iraqi army can last that long.
fakeedit: Is trench warfare possible ih the desert? I don't know the properties of the terrain in the Mosul region.....

Trench warfare is possible everywhere that's not the arctic or mountains. While there has not been trench warfare going on in Syria or Iraq, the Kurds, Iraqis and Syrians have made extensive use of trenches around their controlled areas and cities

*EDIT
Trenches were dug by surprise a while ago

As long as the ice is thick enough, you could certainly dig trenches into it, mountains present obvious terrain problems.

Mainly I just wasn't sure how sandy the terrain around Mosul was.

Looking at WWI-era Italy, I'd say that people can dig trenches anywhere they please. Might have some trouble in open ocean.

[martinuzz]

Might have some trouble in open ocean.

Those are called ship canals