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Author Topic: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.  (Read 208409 times)

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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #345 on: September 10, 2014, 01:37:47 pm »
I am glad we could establish that massacring christians is not haram according to the Quran.

Next is accepting that ISIS and friends are not only following Islam, but doing so closer to the original actions and words than all those muslim apologetics.
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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #346 on: September 10, 2014, 03:20:58 pm »
Yeah yeah, and Jesus comes not to bring peace but bearing a sword, which is why the Crusaders were better Christians than any of the modern day weenies.
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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #347 on: September 10, 2014, 03:29:28 pm »
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Anyway, I'm declaring my own Caliphate. With coke, whiskey, blackjack and hookers*. All hail the new Shebinad Caliphate!
Ah, that explains the avatar...

Anyway, if your Caliphate offers 72 hookers in the afterlife, I'll volunteer as a suicide drinker.
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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #348 on: September 10, 2014, 05:18:29 pm »
You know, Christianity got "Thou Shall Not Kill" written in big honking letters right in the 10 commandments, and it never stopped a murder. You should get over your Islamophobia burningpet, yeah, people are doing all kind of horrible things in the name of Islam at the moment, but it doesn't mean Islam is fundamentally horrible in the same way that the inquisition and crusades don't make Christianity evil.
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« Reply #349 on: September 11, 2014, 12:54:06 am »
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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #350 on: September 11, 2014, 01:28:55 am »
Quote from: Bauglir on September 10, 2014, 03:20:58 pm
Yeah yeah, and Jesus comes not to bring peace but bearing a sword, which is why the Crusaders were better Christians than any of the modern day weenies.

"Sword" is a mistranslation. A more accurate term is 'knife used by merchants to divide'. The disciples misunderstood the message as well, which is when they suggested they go buy a knife, Christ said "That is enough," or "Enough with that".

"Thou shalt not kill" is another mistranslation from "Thou shalt not murder". The word retzach is used. This word is never used in conjunction with wars. I'd go on, but I don't know why I'm bothering with this post in the first place.
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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #351 on: September 11, 2014, 11:03:25 am »
Bauglir was making a point that following a literal but shallow and selective reading of a holy book doesn't make you "better" at that religion.

I mean, look at that Islam and War page that BP loves to cite.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_war
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Make a holy war, do not embezzle the spoils; do not break your pledge; and do not mutilate (the dead) bodies; do not kill the children
Ah yes, ISIS have definitely not been doing any of these things
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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #352 on: September 11, 2014, 01:00:17 pm »
Quote from: burningpet on September 10, 2014, 01:37:47 pm
I am glad we could establish that massacring christians is not haram according to the Quran.

Next is accepting that ISIS and friends are not only following Islam, but doing so closer to the original actions and words than all those muslim apologetics.
*yawn*

And the Army of God (an extreme pro-life terrorist group in the United States) are following Christianity. What's your point?

99% of modern Christians have diverged from the "original actions and words" of the Bible and 1st-century Christianity, through 2000 years of theological discussion and debate. That's the whole point of fundamentalism, is that it sees this process as a bad thing and tries to return to just the original source material. Should we interpret your logic to say that only the most extreme fundamentalist sects are the "true" representatives of a religion? In which case, "true" Christians are misogynistic dominionist Communists. Depending on which early sect you decide had it right. (Personally, I think Christianity went off the rails with St. Paul. But that's me.)

Judaism and Islam have an even more involved process of debate and religious jurisprudence and a body of literature and theology which has grown from the original source material. To say that Wahhabi Islam is "more Islamic" than the Sufis or the Ismail'is or the Druze is to be a fundamentalist yourself, though for your own pernicious reasons.

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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #353 on: September 11, 2014, 01:48:59 pm »
So how's everyone's eagleday going? I got in an argument at work when I said it was like celebrating the Reichstag fire, except we don't do that because the Nazis lost their war while we never want ours to end.
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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #354 on: September 11, 2014, 01:51:31 pm »
Quote from: UrbanGiraffe on September 11, 2014, 01:48:59 pm
So how's everyone's eagleday going? I got in an argument at work when I said it was like celebrating the Reichstag fire, except we don't do that because the Nazis lost their war while we never want ours to end.

Dandy. All the people I associate with at work are as sick of the flag-waving and chest beating as I am.
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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #355 on: September 11, 2014, 02:56:55 pm »
I work at home, so no problem there. Although the dog was woofing some shit about "Islamo-fascists". Stupid dog.
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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #356 on: September 11, 2014, 03:21:14 pm »
What's Eagle Day?
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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #357 on: September 11, 2014, 04:09:28 pm »
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What's Eagle Day?
It's the anniversary of the Twin Towers falling, so we have to be extra super mega patriotic today so that the terrorists don't win. Since eagles are our national animal, it's Eagle Day.
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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #358 on: September 11, 2014, 05:36:10 pm »
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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #359 on: September 11, 2014, 07:25:02 pm »
And God help the man who doesn't put his flag at half-mast.
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