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[Tack]

Sorry yeah I was talking modern.
The original Damascus steel I believe involved green wood and other weird illuminati secrets.

[BorkBorkGoesTheCode]

Sorry yeah I was talking modern.
The original Damascus steel I believe involved green wood and other weird illuminati secrets.

I heard unintentional nanotechnology and special ores.

[Kot]

Damascus steel was basically Valyrian steel, to the point that some German sciencists reported carbon nanotubes and nanowires (wat) in those. Like, not even joking.

Afaik the katanas are only folded 'cos that's how oldtimeyjaps made steel.

Their steel was shit, as in it was hard to make it into a sword, not that the finished product was bad, and the easiest way to get it right was folding, IIRC. Europeans did the same thing in early middle ages with like Ulfberhts and stuff, albeit details vary.

[Loud Whispers]

The finished product was bad, it was mass produced shit; the spear, naginata and bow were what did the killing

Top kekels when one of the Chinese Emperors even mass ordered Japanese swords in order to further drive down their quality and deprive pirates of good weapons

[BorkBorkGoesTheCode]

Damascus steel was basically Valyrian steel, to the point that some German sciencists reported carbon nanotubes and nanowires (wat) in those. Like, not even joking.

Have you read about the roman goblet?

Afaik the katanas are only folded 'cos that's how oldtimeyjaps made steel.

Their steel was shit, as in it was hard to make it into a sword, not that the finished product was bad, and the easiest way to get it right was folding, IIRC. Europeans did the same thing in early middle ages with like Ulfberhts and stuff, albeit details vary.

If you look at a resource map of japan there are few natural sources of iron ore, and lots of coal mines.

[Kot]

Don't be so rough on katanas though, the meme is funny and it's true they weren't wonder weapons and that majority of them were dog shit, but some of them, the expensive ones, were actually pretty good. I am not arguing that it was actually used as main weapon, but there is only so many ways you can fuck up a sharp metal stick and I refuse to belive they were as bad or as good as memes make them out to be. The truth is proably somewhere in between.

Have you read about the roman goblet?

Roman magic/acient aliens.

If you look at a resource map of japan there are few natural sources of iron ore, and lots of coal mines.

Uh, I think the whole deal is actually about that their iron was contaminated as fuck and they didin't have a lot of it so that's what the whole fuss about. I dunno, really.

[Loud Whispers]

Don't be so rough on katanas though, the meme is funny and it's true they weren't wonder weapons and that majority of them were dog shit, but some of them, the expensive ones, were actually pretty good. I am not arguing that it was actually used as main weapon, but there is only so many ways you can fuck up a sharp metal stick and I refuse to belive they were as bad or as good as memes make them out to be. The truth is proably somewhere in between.

No, the truth is they're good for slicing peasants and drawing on a charging Mongolian, that's where it ends. You take a weapon that's used as a shite sidearm, forget how to make it in three dark ages, stick with the same design for 1300 years and what have you got? A shit inflexible sword whose purpose is romanticism and policing

[Kot]

I belive there is actually retarded variation of Katanas. Fat katanas, slim katanas, light katanas, heavy katanas, longer katanas, shorter katanas and whatever, which supposedly made them useful for various tasks, but that might be just modern thing.

In the end I guess that Katana is better than no weapon, though I would choose an infantry sabre (maybe an karabela, though I'd feel safer with a bit more armoured handguard) because I am apparently some kind of Poleaboo, even if I'm Polish myself.

[BorkBorkGoesTheCode]

Don't be so rough on katanas though, the meme is funny and it's true they weren't wonder weapons and that majority of them were dog shit, but some of them, the expensive ones, were actually pretty good. I am not arguing that it was actually used as main weapon, but there is only so many ways you can fuck up a sharp metal stick and I refuse to belive they were as bad or as good as memes make them out to be. The truth is proably somewhere in between.

No, the truth is they're good for slicing peasants and drawing on a charging Mongolian, that's where it ends. You take a weapon that's used as a shite sidearm, forget how to make it in three dark ages, stick with the same design for 1300 years and what have you got? A shit inflexible sword whose purpose is romanticism and policing

[Citation Need]

[Loud Whispers]

I've done my bit

I had 2,600 words worth of this crap going through bloomery iron to the dark ages and all that, but I lost it due to virus attack

I may retreat my ground there, but as it stands, Katanas are very low priority for me

[Kot]

I've done my bit

God Emperor, I got cancer just by listening to first 5 seconds of the Cringemaster America speaking.

[Loud Whispers]

It gave me katana fatigue

[MarcAFK]

The only problem I have with lindybeige is that he's the only youtuber who hasn't replied to my shit posts.   

[Rolepgeek]

Katanas were pretty shitty for a long while. Then the Mongols invaded. The Japanese bladesmiths were not pleased to learn about their swords snapping in Mongolian brigandine armor. They revamped their techniques, and the swords got pretty good.

[Loud Whispers]

The Mongols didn't actually invade, preliminary vanguards were all that made it to Japan, as both their Korean invasion fleets were destroyed by divine winds. Thus the Japanese katana was untested against real enemies, remaining useless compared to the entire world