Reelya, I'm kinda confused as to your point with this.
I never said anything about computer science.
Reelya is pointing out the double standard.
Here, I'll do the same:
LordBucket, are you a member of the MRA? Because whether or not you are, the type of things you're saying and claiming lead me to believe you're one.
No. Even my guess as to what it stood for wasn't correct. Than you google for the correction. Though I did guess two of the three letters right.
You understand why I ask? Even from a purely logical viewpoint? And why it isn't usually considered a good thing?
So...you appear to think that:
Women's rights activist = good
Men's rights activist = bad
See, all we do is change the gender and suddenly everything is different to you. You have a very strong anti-male prejudice, and you seem to not even be aware of it. This is why Reelya is pointing out the double standard with the computer science example and you're not even getting it.
No, the MRA is bad. Look up the shit they do. Seriously.
And yes, men's rights activists tend to be ridiculous because men have it better off than women and it comes across, in almost all cases, as wanting to focus on their issues and ignore women's, as if they didn't matter. All of them? No. But there's a reason masculism isn't a movement. Women do not have it 'better off' than men. Feminism is a movement that is beneficial for equality. I've given my reasons for this multiple times, and you have failed to even acknowledge them, multiple times. It's an underhanded tactic and makes me realize this argument is pointless, because you aren't here to try and gain a greater knowledge of the subject, or try to share your knowledge with others. You're here to cause conflict, and you're here to disrupt conversation that could be put to otherwise more creative use. You will never change your opinion, however untrue it is, because you don't want to learn or change. You want to, to be blunt, troll people. And you've been succeeding. It makes me remember why your forum avatar was Trollestia for so long(at least I think that was you...might be getting mixed up). And in all honesty? I'm sick of it. I'm sick of you. Because you're spewing bullshit and refusing to clean it up when people point it out to you, in favor of trying to show that they pointed out the bullshit in the wrong way. You're arguing to win, not to enlighten. Just like GWG.
What would you do if a woman bought you a free drink? Would you instantly start thinking of a way to get into
her pants? How many people do you know who would instantly start trying to think of a way to get into her pants?
...because...let me guess: wanting to have sex with a woman who buys me a drink is somehow a bad thing? Why?
Are men just fundamentally evil or something? Wanting a woman automatically makes me a villain?
That kind of seems to be where you're going with a lot of things you say.
Wanting to have sex with someone is not fundamentally evil. If you begin effectively
plotting to do so or make it the prime focus of your interaction with someone, it's objectifying them. I dislike using the word, but basically, you're seeing them as a tool, something to be used for your sexual satisfaction, rather than a person who might just think you're a cool dude and want to hang out.
there's a fairly significant difference between 'didn't show interest in course
or felt it was too difficult' and 'got raped in an alleyway'
If "because rape!" is your answer to everything, that makes meaningful conservation difficult. Go through the past couple pages and do word searches for rape. You're using it as a response to discussions of college admissions, discussion of social favoritism, you're saying it's ok for society to think it's better for men to be hurt than women because women can be raped...go back a another thread page or two and you were responding to discussion of waitressing, coal mines and dating with "but rape!"
You seem really fixated on this.
That was in response to Reelya's reference to rape, actually.
Pointing out that "someone wants to fix it" doesn't make something that happened to a person non-discriminatory. For any women's problem someone wants to fix those too, so it proves nothing. Giving "tips" doesn't say anything about the underlying problem, and it could easily interpreted as a "blame the victim" mentality, i.e. those "don't get raped" tips everyone hates.
It wouldn't have come up otherwise. I was pointing out that tips to help someone make it through a class and 'tips' on how to avoid getting raped aren't quite the same.
Congratulations, LordBucket, you have succeeded in being a troll. I'm done responding to your posts pertaining to this subject, as they are neither useful nor do they make for good debate anymore; you appear to be ignoring any valid points made by those who disagree with you, so I cannot believe you are trying to have a rational debate. If you manage to convince me otherwise, I might reconsider, but from all I can see, the following is the case:
You're wrong.
You know you're wrong.
You know you've been shown to be wrong.
You refuse to acknowledge this, in favor of continuing the argument and (apparently) ignoring what people have shown.
You choose instead to try and find little details you can niggle at, to try and pry at the infrastructure of the arguments, as though it was the entirety of the argument.
So, I think I'm done with you. You aren't worth it. You're a troll, and while I have terrible problems with feeding them, I'm done feeding
you.