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[NJW2000]

Fantastic, thanks!

[lethosor]

Have you decided how you will distribute the 64-bit builds (once they're ready)? Will it be a single ZIP per OS, containing both 32 and 64-bit executables, or one ZIP for OS/bitness combination?

I'll probably have a bunch of separate zips, but the list is getting long the way it is formatted now.  But that's the way I'm leaning.  We'll also enter a sort of annoying save compat territory -- even if I manage compat between the bitnesses, 64-bit saves will often be too large for 32 bit DF to load.  I imagine there could be "false" bug reports over this, but I'm not sure how to handle it without spending a zillion years coding calculations estimating memory sizes before load or something.

It seems to me that as long as saves are compatible, they shouldn't take much more memory to load (if anything, 32-bit saves might take less memory, since structures with pointers like STL strings would take up less space in memory). Granted, saves that take over 2/3/4 GB of memory probably won't be loadable by 32-bit DF, but there aren't too many of those around currently.

Regarding that, what sorts of issues are you running into with 32/64-bit compatibility? The main issue being mentioned is the difference in sizes of integer types (namely "long"), which I suppose you could resolve with fixed-width types (stdint.h), although it would be a pain to rewrite an entire project (or even just the (un)serialization code) to use those.

[Knight Otu]

Thanks for the answers, Toady!

I'm of two minds regarding the potential to jump straight to the artifact releases. On the one hand, it's sad that games and recipes would have to wait longer (hopefully not that much longer though) - on the other hand, MYTH GENERATOR! I've been looking forward to that so long!

[TheFlame52]

As of now, a dwarf can go their whole life without eating their favorite food or seeing their favorite material. Are there plans to make dwarves' likes and dislikes change based on their environment?

[falcc]

Thanks for all the answers, Toady! I'm so excited for the release.

As of now, a dwarf can go their whole life without eating their favorite food or seeing their favorite material. Are there plans to make dwarves' likes and dislikes change based on their environment?

There's a whole Fortress Talk about the development of the game's cultures, including making people's favorites more in line with their environment. Obviously no timeline exists.


http://www.bay12games.com/media/df_talk_5_transcript.html

[Max™]

Bones being able to be specified will be amazing for adventurer mode crafting, for the record. Right now I just dummy in a "cleaned bone" item and have a reaction use one item from the corpse, x cleaned bones, x hides if appropriate, dagger, and needle. I did have them using different tools from the dagger but it seemed dumb to not give the little copper thing a use.

Hmmm, regarding army movement/army controllers/refugee behavior. I seem to recall those groups lacking an army_controller when Putnam and I were poking around trying to force sieges/teleport on the travel map. The former worked occasionally, the latter works fine. Is adding a default controller that leads a unit to a relative or nearby site or even just keeps them from sleeping eternally possible? I've followed refugees immediately after sacking a site and walked across the entire map with them, they just kinda stayed pointed at a given location until they hit an arbitrary location, bounced around a bit, and then when I let them travel freely again and caught up they just walked back to the campsites outside the sacked site and dozed off eternally.

The kids thing is kinda sad but gives me a new goal: will children remain unwilling to trade in any way, even little things like giving them toys or food later when they have to eat in adventurer mode? If I make some toys and "accidentally" leave them lying around, will they play with them?

[Random_Dragon]

I thought you could use the personal barter screen to trade with anyone, even kids?

[Max™]

"You should find an adult." As I recall.

[Random_Dragon]

That's the actual trade screen, I thought. Lemme double-check, but... >.<

EDIT: Well shit. Seems they reject personal trading too. Son, I am disappoint.

[Dirst]

That's the actual trade screen, I thought. Lemme double-check, but... >.<

EDIT: Well shit. Seems they reject personal trading too. Son, I am disappoint.

Children in DF know better than to accept gifts from strangers.  I find it hard to consider this a bad thing.

[Neonivek]

Ohh Toady if you ever have to think of how to handle children in terms of psychology.

A good way to understand children is that they are adults without the ability to understand or cope with things in general.

As someone once said: "Children are like adults without their lids on"

[Random_Dragon]

Ohh Toady if you ever have to think of how to handle children in terms of psychology.

A good way to understand children is that they are adults without the ability to understand or cope with things in general.

As someone once said: "Children are like adults without their lids on"

So basically your average dorf as-is. o3o

[Daniel the Finlander]

I assume that the current growth rates of trees will be adjusted, because they grow ridiculously fast right now, but will trees grow at realistic speeds or at accelerated speeds? If the latter is the case, probably because of gameplay reasons, how much faster will they grow?

[JesterHell696]

Thanks for the answers.

[Andreus]

I finished handling the last personality needs in dwarf mode -- dwarves can swipe and own and wear trinkets again somewhat like they did before, for instance, with the avaricious and extravagant dwarves doing it more than others.

Does this mean that we'll once again have dungeon masters who wear sixteen crowns and twenty capes and not a stitch else?