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A ghost is manning my ballista
« on: July 06, 2014, 05:36:18 pm »

Well the topic more or less says it all. The ghost of my legendary miner is now manning my ballista, and will fire it. Now I've looked at other stuff ghosts can do and this doesn't appear on the list as best I can tell.
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Re: A ghost is manning my ballista
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2014, 05:41:36 pm »

That's pretty cool. I hope the ghostly duties won't change with the next update, to be honest. Ghostly animal trainers, fishermen, and ballista operators are just so cool.
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Re: A ghost is manning my ballista
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2014, 05:49:36 pm »

I was hoping someone knew enough about the coding to tell me why he's operating a ballista of all things. He's got no training and was never assigned it.
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Re: A ghost is manning my ballista
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2014, 07:37:22 pm »

It's definitely a bug, so it's anyone's guess why it's happening.  It's kind of like the bug where a fell mood can lead to a ghost being murdered and turned into an artifact, but even more strange since it's apparently deciding that a ghost is a valid worker for the job.  I'm not sure if siege weaponry use different code for job selection for some reason, but it seems weird if so.

If you want him to stop you can probably just disable the ballista, or failing that, deconstruct and reconstruct it.  It would be interesting to see if he gets picked for the job again if you reactivate the ballista.

Incidentally, he might make a good siege operator if he's fearless, and a ghost probably is.
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Re: A ghost is manning my ballista
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2014, 08:52:56 pm »

That is bad as fuck

They see ghost operating giant arrows they be sure to run, you don't wanna trifle with that
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Re: A ghost is manning my ballista
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2014, 09:00:40 pm »

Well, at least you can assure that when the fortress eventually dies, the place'll turn into a worse version of Anor Londo, specifically with those dragonslayer arrows.
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Re: A ghost is manning my ballista
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2014, 12:34:09 am »

Well done OP, you've inadvertently weaponized ghosts.
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Re: A ghost is manning my ballista
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2014, 10:36:26 am »

I was hoping someone knew enough about the coding to tell me why he's operating a ballista of all things. He's got no training and was never assigned it.

Wait, what? You're sure about this?

Can you upload the save please?
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Re: A ghost is manning my ballista
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2014, 11:51:25 am »

I remember back on the topics for ghostly fishing and animal training, people were asking how to weaponize ghostly labor. Well, here it is, ghostly siege operators. Now for science, see if you can get him to operate a catapult.
Re: A ghost is manning my ballista
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2014, 12:07:14 pm »

How do I upload a save?
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Re: A ghost is manning my ballista
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2014, 12:24:43 pm »

So are ghosts immune to fear of invaders & undead?
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Re: A ghost is manning my ballista
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2014, 01:29:43 pm »

Ghosts are already known to go fishing and to do a couple other things I don't remember. (Animal training I think?)

It has been hypothesized that they might do any job that doesn't require explicit instructions from the overseer, but is instead automatically generated, if they were assigned to be allowed such duties during life. Which would include ballista operating.
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Re: A ghost is manning my ballista
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2014, 02:17:06 pm »

How do I upload a save?

http://dffd.wimbli.com/

Ghosts are already known to go fishing and to do a couple other things I don't remember. (Animal training I think?)

It has been hypothesized that they might do any job that doesn't require explicit instructions from the overseer, but is instead automatically generated, if they were assigned to be allowed such duties during life. Which would include ballista operating.

Yes, it's fishing and animal training.

It's the fact that Urist says the dwarf didn't have siege operator enabled in life that's making me scratch my head. Our understanding of this bugture had been that the dwarf in question had to die with the labor enabled, or at least with skill in the labor. A random ghost taking up ballista operating with no experience in life, and without "permission" to do so? That's pretty odd.
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Re: A ghost is manning my ballista
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2014, 03:07:05 pm »

How do I upload a save?

http://dffd.wimbli.com/

Ghosts are already known to go fishing and to do a couple other things I don't remember. (Animal training I think?)

It has been hypothesized that they might do any job that doesn't require explicit instructions from the overseer, but is instead automatically generated, if they were assigned to be allowed such duties during life. Which would include ballista operating.

Yes, it's fishing and animal training.

It's the fact that Urist says the dwarf didn't have siege operator enabled in life that's making me scratch my head. Our understanding of this bugture had to this point been based on the understanding that the dwarf in question had to die with the labor enabled, or at least with skill in the labor. A random ghost taking up ballista operating with no experience in life, and without "permission" to do so? That's pretty odd.
Did the ghost have a preference for ballista, ballista ammo, or the materials used?
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Re: A ghost is manning my ballista
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2014, 06:03:16 pm »

There's is so much win in just the title alone.  Let us know how he works out!
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