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[Dorsidwarf]

I imagine the Emprah would have jumped up and down on a few star systems with him and his primarchy lads, then gone "wow this takes more time than I thought" and cooked up SPACE THUNDER MARINE WARRIORA or something to help out.

[nenjin]

There are 21 historical legions, and 21 primarchs and one of those legions has an extra primarch. So that's 22. Then you add the two that were BLAMMED. So that actually makes 24 total primarchs.

I dare you to name them all, except of course the 2 unknown ones, which you can put as X and Y.

It would appear I am wrong, because in the grimdarkness of the 21st century, math is hard.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

I just count on my fingers. One, two, three, skorp, five, four, thanta, sixty, Emperor's finger.

[Trekkin]

I imagine that by necessity they would eventually had raised an army anyway, bit imagine a group of two dozen demigods, one of them basically a god going around together.

It would have been a giant, titanically wasteful game of whack-a-mole; even using the most optimistic ideas about how they'd have turned out in the Emperor's care (as in, not like Horus), there's still only 21 people total under the original plan, counting the Emperor and assuming Omegon wasn't intentional. 21 demigods might be enough to kill anything in the galaxy, at least insofar as the Emperor was aware at the time of the Primarch Project's inception, but just running around killing things isn't enough to build an empire. It also needs boots on the ground to handle local threats and force bigger ones to concentrate their efforts, and of course there needs to be some kind of government for the concept of empire to have any meaning to the people ostensibly in it. Primarchs are overkill for both tasks, and more importantly there aren't enough of them to physically meet the needs of the burgeoning Imperium. If there's only Primarchs and nothing else, every time an Ork pops its head out of the ground on some podunk agri-world, at least 1/21 of the Imperium's military has to go deal with that...and there tend to be 22+ Orks in the Imperium at any one time.

Now, as a plan for building an Empire this is farcically inefficient. If all the Emperor wanted was endless bloodshed and glory, though, it makes perfect sense.

[Urist McScoopbeard]

I think that the Emperor's original plan had been to use the primarchs to influence and take over planets from within like the Emperor had been doing on Earth (before royally donking it up and taking over the world with an army of super soldiers.)

Also, the primarchs were probably fucked from the beginning--at least they had humanity because they were raised by humans. The Emperor was a literal psychopath, who not only did not give a fuck about the primarchs, but viewed them 100% as tools, and allowed them to believe that he loved them to get them to follow orders. Some seriously fucked up shit.

[LordPorkins]

Okay, Clarification, since people are throwing numbers around like "24 Primarchs" (Ooh, that sounds like a good band name.) And i just wanna set the record straight. There are 21 Primarchs. There was 20 Legions (At some point), and 20 Primarchs were made for each of them (Omegon (Or possibly Alpharius) was either an accident on the Emps partHERESY *BLAM* or an experiment. I dunno where people are getting this idea of a 21rst Legion. As for the two missing Primarchs, those are included in the counts of the legions. There are 19 named Primarchs and  18 named legions. I suppose technically you could see the Companions (I think thats what they were called) as they're own legion, with Emps himself being their "Primarch." Though that would be a bit of a stretch

[Kot]

Okay, Clarification, since people are throwing numbers around like "24 Primarchs" (Ooh, that sounds like a good band name.) And i just wanna set the record straight. There are 21 Primarchs. There was 20 Legions (At some point), and 20 Primarchs were made for each of them (Omegon (Or possibly Alpharius) was either an accident on the Emps partHERESY *BLAM* or an experiment. I dunno where people are getting this idea of a 21rst Legion. As for the two missing Primarchs, those are included in the counts of the legions. There are 18 named Primarchs and legions. I suppose technically you could see the Companions (I think thats what they were called) as they're own legion, with Emps himself being their "Primarch." Though that would be a bit of a stretch

19 named Primarchs and 18 named legions. Alpha Legion got two. You fucked up the count yourself.

[LordPorkins]

Aw shit your right. Gotta fix that real quick

But actually, where did this idea of 21 Legions come from? I've yet to hear anyone make that mistake, and am wondering if GeeDubs released something with a misprint or two in it.

[Trekkin]

Aw shit your right. Gotta fix that real quick

But actually, where did this idea of 21 Legions come from? I've yet to hear anyone make that mistake, and am wondering if GeeDubs released something with a misprint or two in it.

I think because there were 21 Primarchs, counting Omegon and the two lost, so people assume there were 21 Legions.

[LordBaal]

The Emperor`s rpg party would hace been cool to see. Kinda like the Avengers but with far more dismemberment and everyone is a walking rape dispensing Tank, no healers needed.

Perhaps the Emperor intended to make some kind of confederation or loose republic jumping from place to place showing how awesome they are, were each planet/system was largely on it's own but all shared the same loyally to him and mankind? Not that it would have worked beyond a handful of systems, perhaps a very small sub sector at most.

[Akura]

I just count on my fingers. One, two, three, skorp, five, four, thanta, sixty, Emperor's finger.

Dare I ask which is the Emperor's Finger?

[Egan_BW]

Let's just say it's not on your hand.

[Grim Portent]

Given the Emperor's actions during the Crusade I suspect his original plan (at least as much as the writers could agree what his plan is/was) was to conquer the bits he needed to start the webway project then take things from there. His interest in actual administration and warmongering seemed fairly minimal, he handed both off to other people pretty fast in favour of psychic tinkering, and the chaos gods seemed to assume his overall goal was to kill them off.

If he just wanted war or conquest he could have taken over earth long before it was covered in genetic mutant warlords leading armies of tech-barbarians and the oceans boiled away by nuclear wars. Probably could have ruled the original human space civilization if he really wanted to and lead an army of Men of Iron to conquer the Eldar empire. Dude waited until mankind was almost wiped out by warp storms and rebelling AI to do anything even related to military stuff or overt rule, and then spent his time fighting Orks, minor xenos and divergent human strains before shuffling off to his lab to build a road with his brain.

[nenjin]

There is sort of a question what the Emperor was doing with his time in between the Dark Age of Technology and the start of the Unification Wars. Obviously he was making the Thunder Warriors and setting up his gene labs, but it's still a pretty long stretch of time to account for.

[Urist McScoopbeard]

Do we know if he had a hand in the first human space empire? I assume so--but I don't know if there's lore around it.