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[LordBaal]

What happens is that the Tau came into existence as "the hope" spot, the young, vibrant and dynamic race that would not outright rapemuder you at sight as anyone else with some kind of secrecy about where the Etherials came but that was all. It was indeed a stark contrast and felt somewhat out of place. Ever since GW has tried to make them look grimmer and more suspicious so they aren't the sore tumb of the franchise.

[Kot]

Funilly enough, the creators of Brighthammer 40k, the Noblebright version of Wh40k universe decided to leave Tau as they were in Wh40k originally.
Needless to say, this made them the worst faction of the Galaxy. They attack everything, send aggresive diplomats, mindwash and enslave people. Their Earth Caste is pretty much slaves from birth, Air Caste is bunch of cowards that sometimes shoot stuff for no reason at all and Fire Caste is having live-fire exercises, bully other castes and sometimes act as Tau Gestapo. Ethereals are Big Brother.
Welcome to true face of Tau, which are pretty much "the hope" only because the rest of races has so much blood on their hands they don't even try to cover that up.

[Dorsidwarf]

For a (comparatively cheap) guard army filler, invest in the starter box set. It's pretty well rounded and at UK prices is essentially a free Leman Russ.

[Grim Portent]

I just wanted to respond to this balant Tauaboo but then I realized someone already did. While this isin't exactly as I would put things and some of them could be explained better (The Marines that eat brains is old lore, IIRC, (apart from those ones that just eat them for keks) they do it to acquire the memories and knowledge of person that brain belonged to. Yeah, you can clearly see Rogue Trader vibes here, so I'm pretty sure it might not be canon anymore...), but you're doing the Emperor's work anyway.

Brain eating is still canon, it features in a couple of Black Library books and is mentioned in vague fashion in the RPGs and so on.

For example, there's a scene in Siege of Castellax where a squad of Iron Warriors have to decide who's has to eat an Orks brain so he can fly one of their planes. It's actually more than a little funny in a dark way.

[Loud Whispers]

The Flesh Tearers chapter and the Blood Drinkers chapter both also enjoy tearing flesh and drinking blood respectively

[Tack]

Wait, it's Iron Warriors who do that? I thought it was the soul drinkers.
And then they're all crazy excommunicated and killed to a man.

-- I will defend Flesh Tearers to the end. Don't go down that route, Gabriel Seth is one of my favorite characters.
I mean, he knows his chapter causes abundant friendly casualties, so he only drops them places where there's no friendlies to kill.
Just 'cos they Rip and Tear doesn't mean they're gonna go Khorne. Probably less likely, even, 'cos their berserk rage is fueled by Sanguinius's memories.
I don't know what we were talking about but Flesh Tearers are bros, who also don't eat people.

For a (comparatively cheap) guard army filler, invest in the starter box set. It's pretty well rounded and at UK prices is essentially a free Leman Russ.

There's a box for a massive cashnumber which is 3 russes, hydra, manticore, 2 squads guard, 1 plat cmd sq, 2 rando fortifications, 2 HWSquads and probably something else I forgot.
It's crazy pricey but also probably the cheapest 'in'.
So yeah, I'm rather annoyed that I didn't get it. Hilariously because I was looking at getting it earlier and went 'I don't want 2/5ths of this box'.
Only now am I realizing I wanted 1/5th of that box. I mean, the fortifications were expensive and unnecessary, but I've only just realized I'm 20 troopers away from the magic number 70.

[TempAcc]

I remember reading somewhere that the Emperor's Children (post heresy) don't shy away from (some form of) cannibalism, but they're Slaanesh worshippers, so, eh.

[Rolepgeek]

So I was reading about the Taros Campaign, and was once more smacked in the face with GW's idea of scale. Somehow they manage to make Hive Worlds somewhat reasonable in terms of population (ridiculous nonetheless, but conceivably ridiculous), but then...ugh.

10,000 casualties on Imperial side... barely 9000 fire warriors...in a fight over a planet, and what's more, involving the Imperial Guard. I guess it resembles real warfare to some extent in the sense that it was more about maneuvering than sheer attrition like so many other fights the Guard get into, but....urrrrgh. It's on the level of Space Marine Landing Vehicles and Land Raider official armor thickness bad. Only 8,000 traitor guard/tau-sympathetic rebels on a planet that size? Multiply it all by ten and it would be halfway reasonable. By fifty or a hundred and it would resemble the sort of war I'd expect to take place over a planet as seemingly valuable as Taros. Blaaagh. Whatever.

EDIT: Eh, if it's only twelve million people, I suppose the numbers would be more reasonable with only a x10 scaling. *shrug*

[Egan_BW]

don't you know planets are basically cities

[Tack]

I thought each hive city just kept to itself and really didn't care about the invasions/cultist uprisings that any other city had to deal with.

[nenjin]

I thought each hive city just kept to itself and really didn't care about the invasions/cultist uprisings that any other city had to deal with.

Necropolis by Dan Abnett shows where this is not the case. They can trade and go to war with each other too.

[LordBaal]

On Taros I don't recall properly (even when I recently read the book again). But if I recall correctly the thing was that they couldn't bring enough troops, and lost at least an entire regiment on space to the new Tau ships. Also they didn't knew how much Tau troops where there, and I think the 9K number was of Tau alone, plus a few thousands of miner gangs and whatnot.

[Kot]

On Taros I don't recall properly (even when I recently read the book again). But if I recall correctly the thing was that they couldn't bring enough troops, and lost at least an entire regiment on space to the new Tau ships. Also they didn't knew how much Tau troops where there, and I think the 9K number was of Tau alone, plus a few thousands of miner gangs and whatnot.

It's still horrendously low.

[Tack]

I thought each hive city just kept to itself and really didn't care about the invasions/cultist uprisings that any other city had to deal with.

Necropolis by Dan Abnett shows where this is not the case. They can trade and go to war with each other too.

Necropolis kind of exactly proves my point. In how one Hive city had chaos completely spread throughout it, and the other Hive city didn't even know until they were attacked.
Ergo, an invading army/cult would just need to take the planet one Hive city at a time- heck, even one hab block at a time.

I mean, it's a stretch, but I'd like to find a better explanation for how such weak battles are going down.

[Kot]

I mean, it's a stretch, but I'd like to find a better explanation for how such weak battles are going down.

Imperial propaganda. We have lost 90000000000000000000000 people, we can say it was 10 but then the enemy numbers will be off. Also, we might want to make them look weak.