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[Grim Portent]

Model paints are hard to strip cleanly, it generally requires a toothbrush and some vigorous scrubbing. It's not much of a finesse job.

I could redo his head with just two/three layers and a wash, but that'd leave it looking off colour compared to the other skin even with the same paints on the upper layers, and then I'd need to redo his eyes/scars and maybe his horns if I'm not careful.

You can kind of see the same effect on his left leg around the heel, I had to patch that area after gripping him there to paint some of his details and it's slightly darker than the surrounding skin.

[nenjin]

I use Simple Green to clean old models, but even that requires a toothpick to pry the latex out of the deepest detail sections.

[Andres]

Apparently the C'tan drive is pretty crap, so they've just taken a page from the Thousand Sons and just started using the webway.

Y'know, if it wasn't dangerous enough before.

Wait, what do the Thousand Sons do? Can you give a source?

[LordBaal]

In my days the Necrons used to have a "reactionless drive", which was like the pinnacle of pure tech from this dimension, as in we don't resort on any inter dimensional crap.

This drive allowed them to have instant acceleration to speeds beyond of that of light for long trips.

Now they are Tomb Kings recycled on Space don't know if it's still like that.

[Xantalos]

In my days the Necrons used to have a "reactionless drive", which was like the pinnacle of pure tech from this dimension, as in we don't resort on any inter dimensional crap.

This drive allowed them to have instant acceleration to speeds beyond of that of light for long trips.

Now they are Tomb Kings recycled on Space don't know if it's still like that.

Nah, they’re restricted to hijacking the Webway with their Dolmen Gates, which honestly I never really liked. They’re -the- doesn’t have to use warp shit faction in 40k, they shouldn’t be shackled to the transport system the friggin Old Ones built.

[Tack]

Wait, what do the Thousand Sons do? Can you give a source?

... Use the webway?
Most codexes, and the gathering storm loredumps I guess.
Iirc Ahriman recently taught Magnus how to do it.

[Akura]

Richard Boylan did a new short 40K short film. It’s pretty good: https://youtube.com/watch?v=6bgi5STRe8E

Just got around to watching this.

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Wounded Guardsman prepares to go down fighting Tyranids with a combat knife!!, only for a Space Marine to show up and steal the show. Typical.

[pisskop]

Are most lasguns so quickfire?

[Dorsidwarf]

What do you mean? They're basically equivalent to the autogun, which is just a futuristic automatic rifle

[pisskop]

If a lazgun charge pack can last for ~90 shots or so . . .

and a gaurdsmon has 2-3 packs. . .


*shudders*

[Grim Portent]

Lasgun RoF differs based on model and different regiments use different models. Some have a limiter to enforce fire discipline over a long engagement*, others prefer the ability to spray fire at the enemy and just assume the guardsman will die before he runs out of ammunition. Some have toggles to let the guardsman choose based on their own discretion.

A standard las weapon has 60 shots per clip and a guardsman carries three batteries.


*Also seen on Ogryn weapons because they fire their guns for fun as much as anything else.

[Egan_BW]

I thought that a lasgun shot was supposed to hit considerably harder than a modern rifle. Like, "blows limbs off of unarmored humans". As such I assumed they were on par with autoguns in that they're more powerful, but fire slower.
Am I wrong about how powerful lasguns are? Do autoguns actually fire the equivalent of .50 cal? Are lasguns actually more powerful than autoguns overall?

[MetalSlimeHunt]

A lasgun firing on full power can kill a Space Marine if it hits the neck joint, so it could probably blow a limb off a baseline human.

The real advantage over a rifle is that the human body is far less capable of dealing with thermal damage than ballistic damage. It's as bad as getting shot and fries the surrounding tissue, meaning that the chances of escaping without organ or artery damage is near-zero.

[Egan_BW]

Yeah true, where a bullet might pass right through you, a laser will probably deposit all of its remaining energy, which will then spread because heat likes to spread out.
It's something like the difference between getting hit by a pistol and a shotgun. Some of those properties might make a lasgun of questionable use against something in armor designed to reflect light and keep the heat away from fleshy bits... it really would be like taking a flashlight to a gun fight.

[Grim Portent]

I thought that a lasgun shot was supposed to hit considerably harder than a modern rifle. Like, "blows limbs off of unarmored humans". As such I assumed they were on par with autoguns in that they're more powerful, but fire slower.
Am I wrong about how powerful lasguns are? Do autoguns actually fire the equivalent of .50 cal? Are lasguns actually more powerful than autoguns overall?

In the RPGs the basic lasgun does 1d10+3, an autogun does 1d10+3 as well, the later editions added the ability to power up your las weapons with +1/2 damage and +1/2 penetration at the cost of 2x and 4x ammo consumption. There are also hotshot lascells that make a normal las weapon into a weaker hotshot lasgun but with way less shots and higher price.

The lasguns main advantage is how easy it is to get more ammo. You can plug a battery into any standard power source and get a full clip in a few hours, an autogun needs purchased ammo so you can't get it until you go shopping which eventually laves you with s glorified club0. The autogun also has a smaller clip of 30 so you need to reload more often, even if it's better at mowing down multiple weak enemies at once, which can be deadly in a firefight.

Both weapons are fine for fighting normal human grade enemies, like cultists or normal guardsmen, but become basically useless 1v1 against the more dangerous or well equipped enemies. Special ammo types extend the usefulness of the basic weapons, but there's basically no circumstance in which a basic lasgun or autogun can stop a marine without scoring the system's critical hit equivalent or a massive numbers advantage.



It's important to remember the novels that describe lasguns as blowing off limbs or punching right through power armour are generally older ones where the general power of weapons wasn't very concrete. More recent lasgun fluff desribes them either blowing little craters in flesh (generally against big monstery types) or boring a hole into the body that then causes death from the swelling of internal organs as a result of heat and trauma (from a medic's field injury guide from one of the big rulebooks.) Some stories just treat them like bullet based firearms.