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[TechnoScrabble]

Can you check an item's ID after you create it (the "id" field), unpause, wait for it to disappear, and run ":lua ~df.item.find(ITEM_ID)"? (Replace ITEM_ID with the ID of the item you found earlier.)

That brought up a whole mess of stuff into the dfHack window, which I think is mostly the same things that I saw in gm-editor? Which bits of information do I need to keep an eye on?

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Thank you for the help and patience with this, I haven't played DF since 2012 and I'm new to DFHack and the LNP.

[lethosor]

Okay, so the item still exists. Try checking the pos field (":lua ~df.item.find(ITEM_ID).pos"). Then you can move the cursor to where the item is by setting the three fields of df.global.cursor (e.g. run "lua", then at the lua prompt, run "df.global.cursor.x = df.item.find(ITEM_ID).pos.x", then again with y and z). You might need to press up/down in DF after doing that to get the window to recenter properly.

Also, you can copy text from the console on Windows by right-clicking the title bar, or right-clicking in the console, depending on your system. It's a lot easier for us to read than full screenshots.

[TechnoScrabble]

Okay, so the item still exists. Try checking the pos field (":lua ~df.item.find(ITEM_ID).pos"). Then you can move the cursor to where the item is by setting the three fields of df.global.cursor (e.g. run "lua", then at the lua prompt, run "df.global.cursor.x = df.item.find(ITEM_ID).pos.x", then again with y and z). You might need to press up/down in DF after doing that to get the window to recenter properly.

Also, you can copy text from the console on Windows by right-clicking the title bar, or right-clicking in the console, depending on your system. It's a lot easier for us to read than full screenshots.

That took me deep underground, to an area I have not dug to yet. So, we know they're teleporting down for some reason on unpause (skip a step does not teleport), but we don't know why or how...

[Max™]

It wasn't x/y/z = -30000 was it? That's the default cursor location when it isn't present, I discovered that when I ran launch without a target the first time, since I aimed it at the cursor to give a speed/direction control via in-game methods, this meant I hurled myself at the lower northwest corner of the map at light speed and blew up.

[malvado]

How is the project going?
I've usually been running Dfhack through Lazy and can't say I've used a lot of time trying to configure what is beeing run as default through Dfhack , will there ever been some sort of manageable gui where we could dump / add things we want dfhack to run?

[TechnoScrabble]

It wasn't x/y/z = -30000 was it? That's the default cursor location when it isn't present, I discovered that when I ran launch without a target the first time, since I aimed it at the cursor to give a speed/direction control via in-game methods, this meant I hurled myself at the lower northwest corner of the map at light speed and blew up.

Nope!

[DFHack]# createitem BLOCKS INORGANIC:OLIVINE 50
[DFHack]# gui/gm-editor
[DFHack]# :lua ~df.item.find(13001).pos
<coord: 0x08fe4f04>
x                        = 36
y                        = 60
z                        = 103

EDIT: That's the position BEFORE it moves. Afterwards, it becomes:
x                        = 36
y                        = 60
z                        = 76

[lethosor]

I've usually been running Dfhack through Lazy and can't say I've used a lot of time trying to configure what is beeing run as default through Dfhack , will there ever been some sort of manageable gui where we could dump / add things we want dfhack to run?

Well, there's dfhack.init, where you can specify whatever you want to run on startup, plus a variety of other options for running things when a world or map is (un)loaded. Some LNP launchers have a tab that lets you configure specific DFHack tools, but those are typically limited. The most powerful option for now is editing dfhack.init. I guess a GUI in DF would be possible, but it could be tricky to re-run things as they're changed (without restarting DF, which isn't really desirable).

[malvado]

I've usually been running Dfhack through Lazy and can't say I've used a lot of time trying to configure what is beeing run as default through Dfhack , will there ever been some sort of manageable gui where we could dump / add things we want dfhack to run?

Well, there's dfhack.init, where you can specify whatever you want to run on startup, plus a variety of other options for running things when a world or map is (un)loaded. Some LNP launchers have a tab that lets you configure specific DFHack tools, but those are typically limited. The most powerful option for now is editing dfhack.init. I guess a GUI in DF would be possible, but it could be tricky to re-run things as they're changed (without restarting DF, which isn't really desirable).

Thanks! Will definitely try to understand the .ini later on when it works with 05 or later. Kids keeping me busy lately so I can wait for new version of dfhack

[PeridexisErrant]

I've usually been running Dfhack through Lazy and can't say I've used a lot of time trying to configure what is being run as default through Dfhack , will there ever been some sort of manageable gui where we could dump / add things we want dfhack to run?

https://dfhack.readthedocs.io/en/stable/docs/Core.html#init-files

[malvado]

I've usually been running Dfhack through Lazy and can't say I've used a lot of time trying to configure what is being run as default through Dfhack , will there ever been some sort of manageable gui where we could dump / add things we want dfhack to run?

https://dfhack.readthedocs.io/en/stable/docs/Core.html#init-files

Thank you, that should help me understand a little better how things work

[Hesperid]

It wasn't x/y/z = -30000 was it? That's the default cursor location when it isn't present, I discovered that when I ran launch without a target the first time, since I aimed it at the cursor to give a speed/direction control via in-game methods, this meant I hurled myself at the lower northwest corner of the map at light speed and blew up.

Nope!

[DFHack]# createitem BLOCKS INORGANIC:OLIVINE 50
[DFHack]# gui/gm-editor
[DFHack]# :lua ~df.item.find(13001).pos
<coord: 0x08fe4f04>
x                        = 36
y                        = 60
z                        = 103

EDIT: That's the position BEFORE it moves. Afterwards, it becomes:
x                        = 36
y                        = 60
z                        = 76

So it falls a bunch of Z-levels and stops. After it falls no further, what happens if you set its position back to the surface? Note that just adjusting the Z value for an item's position is not the correct way to move items because it leaves other flags and data structures un-updated, but works for this one experiment. I just want to see if it starts falling again after you bring it to the surface.

[Dirst]

There is a bit of a disconnect between cursor coordinates and the "real" coordinates used by the game.

Your map will have a value in df.global.world.map.region_z that works as an offset.  My guess is that you'll find it holds 27 (i.e., 103 - 76).  Depending on what you're trying to do, you may need to add that offset to your z-coordinate.

[Hesperid]

He already has a valid Z-coordinate from before the object falls, why would he need to do this arithmetic you're talking about instead of just using that?

[lethosor]

For teleporting units and items, the cursor coordinates have always worked for me.

[Dirst]

I said the offset may be needed, I haven't noticed a real pattern of what is in "cursor space" and what is in "map space".

Try adding that term and see if things show up where they are supposed to.  If not, then obviously it's something else.