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[YAHG]

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I can't seem to get DFHack to make me dragon bones. I'm trying to test out a reaction, but I don't have the needed dragon bones. I followed the steps from the wiki, create-items BONE CREATURE_MAT:DRAGON:BONE 10, but it'd just come up with another of the incredibly unhelpful how-to's of DFHack. Can I make dragon bones, or are they one of the items you can't make?

Something like this should do ya for testing if df hack isn't being friendly:

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[REACTION:DRAGON_BONE_FOR_TESTING]
   [NAME:gimme mah dragon bones plz]
   [BUILDING:KITCHEN:CUSTOM_A]
   [REAGENT:something:1:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE]
   [PRESERVE_REAGENT]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:BONE:NONE:DRAGON:BONE] Pretty sure its just bone for the local material

edit: don't use that no good   

[Quietust]

Something like this should do ya for testing if df hack isn't being friendly:

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[REACTION:DRAGON_BONE_FOR_TESTING]
   [NAME:gimme mah dragon bones plz]
   [BUILDING:KITCHEN:CUSTOM_A]
   [REAGENT:something:1:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE]
   [PRESERVE_REAGENT]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:BONE:NONE:DRAGON:BONE] Pretty sure its just bone for the local material

Next time, try actually testing your sample reaction, since that reaction will not work in any version of Dwarf Fortress - in fact, attempting it in version 0.40.09 caused the game to CRASH.

Some useful excerpts from errorlog.txt:

> DRAGON_BONE_FOR_TESTING:Unrecognized Item Token: BONE
Bones have not been a distinct item type since version 0.28.181.40d, and it was BONES, not BONE. Since 0.31.01, bones use the item type CORPSEPIECE, and it is impossible for a custom reaction to produce a valid corpsepiece item.

> DRAGON_BONE_FOR_TESTING:Unrecognized Material Token: DRAGON
DRAGON:BONE is not a valid material - if you want a creature material, you have to specify CREATURE_MAT first.

[lethosor]

I can't seem to get DFHack to make me dragon bones. I'm trying to test out a reaction, but I don't have the needed dragon bones. I followed the steps from the wiki, create-items BONE CREATURE_MAT:DRAGON:BONE 10, but it'd just come up with another of the incredibly unhelpful how-to's of DFHack. Can I make dragon bones, or are they one of the items you can't make?

You want createitem - create-items is an entirely different script that only supports bars, boulders, plants, logs, webs, and anvils (from its documentation).
Also, I believe the first argument should be CORPSEPIECE (see http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Item_token ); however, CORPSEPIECE items aren't possible to create (in addition to CORPSE and FOOD items). I've added a note about this to the wiki.

[Putnam]

Can I turn a creature into a different one?

Creatures/units in Dwarf Fortress consist of pretty complex data structures, for example their individual bodyplan based on race/caste definitions and whatnot else. Converting into another race will be quite complicated, if not outright impossible.

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unit.enemy.normal_race=0
unit.enemy.normal_caste=0
unit.enemy.were_race=0
unit.enemy.were_caste=0

This will transform the unit into a female toad without much associated weirdness except for the whole "vermin acting like a creature" thing that is to be expected even when doing it through DF normally.

I believe my shapechange script might be included in the latest versions of DFHack as well, which allows you to transform a unit into any creature arbitrarily without much fuss.

[StagnantSoul]

Agh... Always some problem... I guess I could switch the dragon bone to cat bones, just to see if it works. Oddly, no catsplosians since 0.40.05 for me.

[jwhite.df]

Copy the raws from dragon bones over to cats?

[Dirst]

Copy the raws from dragon bones over to cats?

The game isn't smart enough to tell if two different items are indistinguishable, it would treat CREATURE_MAT:CAT:BONE and CREATURE_MAT:DRAGON:BONE as completely different.  I suppose you try throwing a reaction class onto the material and dispense with the item ID.

[StagnantSoul]

Oh, just for the test. To see if the reaction works. I'd definitely put it back to dragon bones after testing the reaction with cat bones.

[jwhite.df]

Copy the raws from dragon bones over to cats?

The game isn't smart enough to tell if two different items are indistinguishable, it would treat CREATURE_MAT:CAT:BONE and CREATURE_MAT:DRAGON:BONE as completely different.  I suppose you try throwing a reaction class onto the material and dispense with the item ID.

Just looked at the raws. Bones aren't defined the way I thought.

[PeridexisErrant]

Is there an ETA or release plan for 40.10?

[notfood]

Asking for ETAs never works.

On the bright side, 40.10 already works... somewhat, just check github forks and compile.

[kebab4you]

Asking for ETAs never works.

On the bright side, 40.10 already works... somewhat, just check github forks and compile.

There's what? 7 different branches? None which have been extremely active from what I can tell(Most recent activity on any of the branches was 11 days ago).

[Rose]

The activity that updates DFHack to the new version isn't actually on the DFHack repo, it's on the df-structures repo

[lethosor]

In addition, https://github.com/quietust/dfhack/tree/develop contains the change(s) needed to compile DFHack with 0.40.09-10 at the moment.

[salithus]

I think PE's looking for something stable to include in the Starter Pack, not a "user beware" version.