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[TheFlame52]

As the title says, I'm looking for the raws (creature and civ) for a civilization with no genders that still generates at worldgen. I'm hoping to learn from it to develop my own mod.

[Meph]

Every giv will gen at worldgen. But they die out fast.

[Remuthra]

Consider making them immortal to delay the inevitable?

[TheFlame52]

No, for whatever reason, my civ won't generate unless it has genders. It's possible that if a creature has more than one caste with no gender, it tries to place couples but fails because they have no gender. What I could do, I guess, is have 2 very rare castes called 'forerunners' with genders that die quickly, and the rest genderless immortals. But that'll be my last resort.

[Mohreb el Yasim]

you can post the raws, so we can have a look at it, i don't think genderless are not placed (but have not tried entierly genderless civs, i tried tough with both genderless end gendered population, and that placed all sort)

[TheFlame52]

Check out the mod in my sig, then look at creature_demons and entity_demons.

[Mohreb el Yasim]

the things i would change: (i haven't made them able to exist without gender, i guess now it is needed, you could make a demon/demoness base creature which then (with an interaction on self) transforms to one of the other castes => you would have genderless creatures for the purpose of the game, but they would still be able to reproduce)

those tags have no use on a creature for civilization:
DIFFICULTY:10
BIOME:SUBTERRANEAN_CHASM
UNDERGROUND_DEPTH:5:5
POPULATION_NUMBER:5:10
CLUSTER_NUMBER:1:5

there are many errors in the log you could watch for them too (in general they indicate useless/not used anymore tags)

[TheFlame52]

Could you post the dang log? People keep complaining about it but nobody actually tells me what errors are coming up.

[Teneb]

On the gender thing:

Genderless civs won't gen because they can't reproduce. There is, however, a trick. Create a MALE and FEMALE caste and add the usual tokens to them, and then add [POP_RATIO:0] to those castes, while adding [POP_RATIO:1] (or anything greater than 0) to the genderless caste. POP_RATIO:0 means a caste will never appear in a game, but they are still counted when it comes down to generating civs.

[TheFlame52]

Unfortunately, POP_RATIO:0 isn't valid and defaults to POP_RATIO:100.

[BlackFlyme]

Here's your errorlog, from the version of your mod that's up on DFFD:

Spoiler: errorlog (click to show/hide)

Code: [Select]

*** Error(s) found in the file "raw/objects/plant_imp.txt"
GRASS_WEED_SMOKE:Unrecognized Plant Token: SELECT_MATERIAL
*** Error(s) found in the file "raw/objects/creature_demons.txt"
DEMON:MANTIS_BRUTE:Unrecognized Creature Caste Body Token: EYE
DEMON:ONE-EYED_MONSTER:Unrecognized Creature Caste Body Token: EYE
DEMON:ONE-EYED_MONSTER:Unrecognized Creature Caste Body Token: RIBS
DEMON:ONE-EYED_MONSTER:Unrecognized Creature Caste Body Token: EYELID
DEMON:SAUROPOD_FIEND:Unrecognized Creature Caste Body Token: EYE
DEMON:SAUROPOD_FIEND:Unrecognized Creature Caste Body Token: LUNGS
DEMON:SAUROPOD_FIEND:Unrecognized Creature Caste Body Token: EYELID
DEMON:RIBBON_WORM_DEVIL:Body Token Recognized But Could Not Connect: BRAIN
DEMON:RIBBON_WORM_DEVIL:Body Token Recognized But Could Not Connect: MOUTH
DEMON:RIBBON_WORM_DEVIL:Attack BITE seems to have correct format but could not find proper BPs in any caste, so not added
DEMON:WREN_FIEND:Unrecognized Creature Caste Body Token: 2EYELIDS
DEMON:NEMATODE_DEMON:Body Token Recognized But Could Not Connect: BRAIN
DEMON:NEMATODE_DEMON:Body Token Recognized But Could Not Connect: MOUTH
DEMON:NEMATODE_DEMON:Attack BITE seems to have correct format but could not find proper BPs in any caste, so not added
DEMON:MAGGOT_FIEND:Unrecognized Creature Caste Body Token: HEAD
DEMON:MAGGOT_FIEND:Body Token Recognized But Could Not Connect: BRAIN
DEMON:MAGGOT_FIEND:Body Token Recognized But Could Not Connect: MOUTH
DEMON:MAGGOT_FIEND:Attack BITE seems to have correct format but could not find proper BPs in any caste, so not added
DEMON:MONSTER_OF_STEAM:Body Token Recognized But Could Not Connect: MOUTH
DEMON:MONSTER_OF_STEAM:Attack BITE seems to have correct format but could not find proper BPs in any caste, so not added
DEMON:ONE-EYED_MONSTER:Attack PUNCH seems to have correct format but could not find proper BPs in any caste, so not added
DEMON:MANTIS_BRUTE:Attack PUNCH seems to have correct format but could not find proper BPs in any caste, so not added
*** Error(s) found in the file "raw/objects/creature_imp.txt"
Unrecognized Biome Token: ANY_MOUNTAIN
*** Error(s) found in the file "raw/objects/entity_animal.txt"
Unrecognized Ethic Response Token: JUSIFIED_IF_EXTREME_REASON
*** Error(s) found in the file "raw/objects/entity_imp.txt"
FIRE:Unrecognized Entity Token: MALE
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature SINGE_DEER
Unrecognized Color Token: 1
Unrecognized Color Token: 1
Unrecognized Color Token: 1
Unrecognized Color Token: 1
*** Error(s) finalizing the entity FIRE
Unrecognized entity weapon token: ITEM_WEAPON_AXE_TINY_TRAINING
Unrecognized entity weapon token: ITEM_WEAPON_SPEAR_TINY_TRAINING

I doubt any of these would be a part of the current problem though. If you need help, I've explained most of the errors in the spoiler below. Seems to be minor stuff, except for the body issues with demons.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Plants don't support [SELECT_MATERIAL], so you will have to move your material changes under each material defined.

ANY_MOUNTAIN should be either MOUNTAIN or MOUNTAINS. It's the phoenix that has the incorrect token. As a side note, the unusual egg token is missing the item sub-type argument for the bars. Even though bars do not have an item sub-type, one is still needed. For items without a sub-type, just put NONE where the subtype would normally go.

Justified is missing its 't' for the animal-people's torture for information ethic.

The monarch's [MALE] should be [GENDER:MALE]

Your singe deer are missing their number parameter for the colour slate gray.

I don't see the tiny training weapons in the raws, though the imp entity seems to ask for them.

[TheFlame52]

Done, fixed, corrected, fixed, fixed, removed. You are the best, and I'll fix the demons when I have some more time.

[deepfreeze78]

Would it be possible to make a creature both male and female? Or are you trying to keep them from reproducing whatsoever? I have no clue whether it's even possible to have both genders, I haven't tried.

[TheFlame52]

What I'm trying to do is make the creature have no gender, but still generate. I can't fulfill both those conditions at the same time right now.

[Quietust]

Would it be possible to make a creature both male and female? Or are you trying to keep them from reproducing whatsoever? I have no clue whether it's even possible to have both genders, I haven't tried.

It is not possible, since gender is stored in a single field which can have one of three different values (1 = male, 0 = female, -1 = no gender).