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Author Topic: Cyberstalking and You!  (Read 5566 times)

Mictlantecuhtli

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Re: Cyberstalking and You!
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2014, 08:58:59 pm »

Yeah, dude, uh... you are really, really, really easy to find. The weak link in the chain I went for you through is your twitter, but don't fuckin' post your city everywhere with such a unique username.

That's essentially victim-blaming, you know.
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Re: Cyberstalking and You!
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2014, 09:03:02 pm »

Yeah, dude, uh... you are really, really, really easy to find. The weak link in the chain I went for you through is your twitter, but don't fuckin' post your city everywhere with such a unique username.

That's essentially victim-blaming, you know.
'Don't leave your car unlocked in areas with high amounts of crime' is not victim blaming. It is advice. The same applies here. He is very to find.
Telling someone that they did make something bad happening easier is not the same as saying they deserved said bad thing.
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« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2014, 09:07:11 pm »

That's essentially victim-blaming, you know.
Victim-blaming would imply something bad happened to him, wouldn't it? That he was a victim? Which... didn't. Nothing happened to him. From the ease with which others have grabbed his info, I doubt he was even "stalked". He's just made himself very public, put himself in a situation where he's easy to see. Hell, I'm in the same boat, the only difference is that I don't care and am aware that what I do in public online is public. This is simply correcting ignorance.

This is more akin to letting someone know their fly is open, telling them that yes, your app is totally susceptible to injection attacks. Or someone who's paranoid of getting filmed, this is telling them that the route they usually take to work passes by numerous security cameras, so if he's worried about being filmed in the future he should make sure to avoid them.
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Re: Cyberstalking and You!
« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2014, 09:21:44 pm »

I'm not surprised it's possible. That's not what bugs me. It's worth stressing that there is a grand canyon gulf of difference between this handle and some of my others. This is my personal handle, the one i use for gaming or roleplaying or social media.
There was also this implicit (sometimes explicit) understanding that we probably shouldn't be looking into eachother that much. So he broke that agreement, which leads me to argue something bad *did* happen to me, in that my trust was broken. If your friend has gone to the bathroom and you see their personal journal on their desk you don't begin to thumb through it, that's a dick move, and in doing so you are commiting a betrayal.

There's a lot of context i can't really communicate, but even if i fucked up and accidentally explicitly connected one thing to another, it wouldn't have have been easy to collect this much information on everyone else as well. It seems like an almost disturbing amount of effort.
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Re: Cyberstalking and You!
« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2014, 09:32:01 pm »

Actually, there's one clear example i can think of to illustrate the extent he went to, and to explain how creepy this is.

What if a person went to the lengths to find out and record what kind of pornography you might like?
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« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2014, 09:41:03 pm »

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« Last Edit: March 27, 2018, 07:28:36 pm by Vector »
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« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2014, 09:01:19 pm »

Actually, there's one clear example i can think of to illustrate the extent he went to, and to explain how creepy this is.

What if a person went to the lengths to find out and record what kind of pornography you might like?

What of it? I guess it's dependent on the person and how much that embarrasses you.

Looking at the situation, especially when mental illness is a contributing factor, this kind of behavior is not uncommon. It comes from a desire to control - he wants to be sure you're on the straight and narrow with him, and not say, a government agent infiltrating his group. It sounds silly, but years ago I knew a guy who operated kinda like this where I worked. He was big into unions, and that big business are the ultimate evil. I'm a survivalist junkie, so me and him got along pretty good.

We had been working together for about six months when me and my wife moved out of our old apartment and into a full house. We hadn't moved anything over yet(services, other then power), but he still showed up on our doorstep at three in the morning, because he was on his way home and the police were outside his house(turned out to be another matter with the guy living downstairs from him).

People are also arrested all the time for things that aren't big, for example: protesting! The moment a protest is considered a disruption of the peace, the police will fall in and start trying to break it up. If there's one thing I know about the type, most of these guys have a big mouth when it comes to the cops, and all it takes is a odd word. Mind you, this also depends on the offense.

What you need to do is establish boundaries. Sounds silly, but let him know it's not acceptable to contact you at home. It's what I did, and we're still friends. He may get offended; people often initially do. After that initial shock through, usually the "too far" realization kicks in. Good luck, and have patience.
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« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2014, 11:03:01 pm »

What if a person went to the lengths to find out and record what kind of pornography you might like?
We all know that person. Their name is Google ads.
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Re: Cyberstalking and You!
« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2014, 04:51:20 am »

Is the person willing to destroy the data of will she keep it for some future leverage?
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« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2014, 11:25:43 am »

Google ads will say she'll destroy the data, but yeah, she's going to keep it for future leverage, rest assured.
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« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2014, 12:45:56 pm »

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« Last Edit: March 27, 2018, 07:14:44 pm by Vector »
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« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2014, 04:28:35 pm »

If that's the case, I want to know why Google seems to think I need ads for plus-size clothing lines and really shitty jobs. That's not my kink. They should be sending me uptight but vulnerable men with a flair for the sartorial.

Don't be silly! Google ads gives you what it knows you want (on average, as a member of your statistical groupings), not what you think you want!
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« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2014, 04:35:41 pm »

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« Last Edit: March 26, 2018, 03:21:14 pm by Vector »
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« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2014, 10:22:44 pm »

That is because it goes on averages.

I mean you have things that bug you right? and people eat when things bug them and people who eat are fat.

So Vector are you interested in this diet program?
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Re: Cyberstalking and You!
« Reply #29 on: June 16, 2014, 10:29:22 pm »

but I stop eating... :<
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