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[smakemupagus]

*Pick* dancers?!   
Thanks for sharing the story, good luck with the next one..

[RodriguesSting]

Probably *pikedancers. Anyways, my orcs are not using the bone large pots I made for them to store food. 20, just sitting there.

[Splint]

I just want to add I was wrong on the totems, but it's still smart to keep one to process souls of major races. Boneforge makes the ironbone and such. As to the pots, I have no clue what to say. It really seems to be hit or miss as to if they'll get used (which is why I use barrels; they always get used.)

Also metal tomahawks. They'll be quite handy. Lamellar armor I do still recommend for early on, especially with lower-end fort defense races since beak wolves and stranglers can't bite through it. Savage places too, as many giant animals have trouble biting through it too and it doesn't slow hunting soldiers down much.

[RodriguesSting]

The thing is that I planned to use the pots to save on wood even more, you know.

But I think I will just skip the lamelar entirely if I get an artisan on my embark or on a early wave. I mean, I can pretty much produce/gather every single input necessary to make bloodsteel in less than two seasons. I can dress a dude in steel from from toe to head before hitting the 15 mark, and then getting another one (equally equipped) to spar together. Quite frankly, there is no excuse to not do this. I can then use the leather/lamelar for extra bits as cloaks and etc. At least that's the plan. And honestly, lamellar eats wood just twice as fast as bloodsteel, while not offering anywhere the same level of protection. I made my mind.

[Insanegame27]

I know I've said it before. But I need to reevaluate.

Orcs are my second favorite MW race (After my wasps). I love the MORE DAKKA aspect of it and the fact that DFHack was used minimally with it, keeping mainly to the raws.

One suggestion: Make lamellar either easier to get or better, the cost really isnt balanced.

[smakemupagus]

You're really going to have to break this down for me a little bit.  How is it even possible to have a fort that's not swimming in lamellar?  What reagent are you short on? 

(thanks for the nice words about the mod otherwise   )

[Gamerlord]

What the hell is going on in your forts? Hell, I have so much lamellar that I need to set handicaps to myself to stop all my orcs both military and civilian being clothed in it.

[Insanegame27]

I think it's just my playing style. Plus a bugged game where:
a)Animals never enter the map. EVER. Except with dfhack forcing them, and they only appear underground.
b)Migrant waves will only ever spawn one migrant per wave, even with forcing

It's the game not the save file. I deleted it and havn't played orcs since, being too focused on Wasps. I fixed the issue with a clean install. Errorlog wasn't giving me anything either.

I managed to get a siege by using dfhack. it spawned a single elf archer that decimated my fort.

I am going to play orcs a little bit now. MORE DAKKA. Any suggestions on how to have an interesting game.

[smakemupagus]

>> Any suggestions on how to have an interesting game.

(1) Open door policy:  no hiding from sieges - victory or death!
(2) Any enemy caught in a cage trap must be pitted into an arena with his gear intact, and dispatched in fair combat.

[Gamerlord]

>> Any suggestions on how to have an interesting game.

(3) Restrict yourself to one weapon/armour material that you decide before embark - and no peeking with dfhack to find out what ores there are!
(4) Play a fort with open door policy with only archers. (Hard, but fun.)

[Meph]

Separate the fort into above and belowground, with orcs on the top and snagas only below.

[RodriguesSting]

Never mine bellow dirt (for storage and housing), never plant, never ranch unless for warbeasts, use only ironbone/bloodsteel you can make out of living things and metals you get from raiding.

Orcs do not sow.

[Splint]

Could always try some of the scenarios in the manual. I used a modified Vale of Tears setup for Blackhold (shameless plug is shameless.)

[Arcvasti]

I've done entirely surface Orcs a time or two. Twas fun.

[RodriguesSting]

I am definitely not ready for a surface run, either orcs or humans. Blocks add value up rather quickly, I got a huge first immigration wave (12+) right after finishing the walls and some apartments. I shiver to think what would happen if I get an invasion. Also, bone, as nice and dandy as it is, is really not as efficient as I thought. Gotta re-learn how to use clay and make the most out of the damn factory.